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Old 11-17-2008, 01:23 PM   #1
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Can the 2 modes for the Mgs be combined into 1 Mode? Instead of using deployed or undeployed.

The proning accuracy should stay like it is. However having to switch to undeployed and receiving punishment for it by a long checkign animation is a bit off. there is no logical reason for deployed mode being totally inaccurate when standing and inversely the undeployed being so inaccurate when proning.

Currently I was able to hit more accurately on 40m with a pistol than with an mg in undeployed and crouching. The crouched acuracy shoukld be imrpoved a bit. because there is no "resting" on objects this sould compensate for it. Right now Mgs are totally useless in any city setting because you cant properly fire from a window.


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remove the undepolyed mode, keep the bipod out. and improve the crouching aaccuracy.

I think it was being tried too hard to make the MG more of a stationary support weapon.

And having to switch to undeployed to wield it in close quarters does not make sense. And the long check animation is a very unrealistic way to enforce "proper" mg playing style
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:52 PM   #2
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Couldn't agree more


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Old 11-17-2008, 02:23 PM   #3
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All the deploy timers are gonna be played with for the nest patch, it shouldn't be such a pain from what I heard. The two modes make alot of sense to me at least, added alot to the role.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:32 PM   #4
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its artificial. its the same piece of metal I am holding. while firing prone without a bipod would be less accurate, firing standing with the bipod deployed would not make it less accurate.
And since the mgs are quite heavy they should be able to hit more accurate on some ranges wven when firing unsupported.

I tried to kill someone from a window in muttrah. he was about 30m awy from me. Even a small burst of 3 shots kicked the gun waaaay up. (m249). The weight should eat a lot of the recoil. I mean its ok if its not as accurate as an assault rifle, but the complete inaccuracy is not realistic
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:36 PM   #5
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I can see a slight change. Really, I would like to see the recoil for the crouched and undeployed prone mode toned down abit, accuracy in short bursts in great for suppression as it is.

I wouldn't mind seeing the "check" animation switched to deployed mode instead of assault mode, but the draw mode for assault mode should still be about 2 seconds, perhaps just a bipod or stock deployment and a quick racking of the charging handle.

Deployed mode is great for defense, and a reducing assault recoil would allow it to be used for suppression during an attack, while still retaining mobility.

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Old 11-17-2008, 02:40 PM   #6
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Another problem is city environment. In muttrah a mg has to be deploy on the open street to actually get something to shoot. This means its at higher risk of getting spoted by and IOV
(infantry-owning-vehicle). So while any normal rifleman can hide in houses, the mg guy does not have the option.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:29 PM   #7
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I always keep it in deployed mode.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:33 PM   #8
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I always keep it in deployed mode.
Keep it in deployed and prone dive, only way to do as the undeployed is annoying and you can't shoot it standing up anyway.

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Old 11-17-2008, 03:36 PM   #9
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Keep it in deployed and prone dive, only way to do as the undeployed is annoying and you can't shoot it standing up anyway.
This is exactly what the Devs don't want you to do.

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Old 11-17-2008, 03:53 PM   #10
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This is exactly what the Devs don't want you to do.

True, but when on the move in CQB it's the only thing to do and ALOT of players do it.

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