Change the handling of MG

[cat]

The weapon should be less overall accurate than a m16 however when on full auto it should be more stable within a certain level. After all it weighs more than a m16 and should not kick as much.

So if we do some rambo hip shooting it should be more accurate. I mean you cant hit probably on 300 in real life but you would be able to hit something within 50m

[M4sherman]

Ahh unless I am on defense I only use the LMG in the huey

[[R-DEV]Chuc]

Recoil of undeployed has been worked through based off same caliber rifle recoil, so expect the mode being a lot more viable.

[Waaah_Wah]

Have in mind that the MG is pretty heavy, so it wont climb as much as a rifle

[GoreZiad]

I don't prone spam, 'cause I support my squad by laying behind them.

[Bringerof_D]

i agree to this suggestion, a deployed mode was nice but the way they killed the accuracy for un deployed was bad. this is a 5.56mm weapon in which case the recoil should be no more than an m16

[viper759]

Originally Posted by Caboosehatesbabies

This is exactly what the Devs don't want you to do.

do you or the devs have a better suggestion that works in practice?

[AnRK]

Originally Posted by cat

its artificial. its the same piece of metal I am holding. while firing prone without a bipod would be less accurate, firing standing with the bipod deployed would not make it less accurate.
And since the mgs are quite heavy they should be able to hit more accurate on some ranges wven when firing unsupported.

What he says...

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

I like the two modes, and it doesnt seem stupid in my mind since when deployed, you hold the weapon differently and modify your weight distribution, in a way that just wouldn't work if standing, as you'd have to actually put strength in to holding the weapon's weight.

Just to back it up some more, see how the guys in the background are using their PKMs. You wouldn't stand up holding your MG by the stock only looking down the sights like that would you? Gotta love that US soldier with his cheesy grin there don't you

Originally Posted by Solid Knight

Well they need to pick a single method of creating inaccuracy. Currently they have two. They have the weapon physically move around and on top of that they have a deviation cone that is supposed to mimic the affects of the weapon moving around.

No they don't, deviation is intended to re-create the weapon due to it's weight, size, how it's held and the effect these have when you move with it. Your moving of the mouse simulates your intention to move, deviation simulates the effect that movement has.

So you move your mouse to do a quick 180 turn, your weapons weight etc will make you unstable, since soldiers are generally don't weigh 20 stone of pure muscle with weapon familiarity the SAS could only dream of.

[Blakeman]

In my humble opinion the SAW is kind of in a category of its own. The G3 machine gun is .308 caliber, the PKM is 7.62x54R. The M240G in the foreground of the pic AnRK posted is also .308 (7.62x51 NATO).

The SAW on the other hand is .223 (5.56 NATO) and is a much smaller round and weapon overall. I have personally hit a 200 yard target of a full silhouette body from a kneeling position with the SAW, and though uncomfortable is still doable. Standing takes a bit more work but since PR does not allow for stability from surrounding objects it could be better.

They even have a CQB version of the SAW with some forces that integrates a smaller barrel length and a vertical foregrip instead of a bipod.

The PKM is a monster to try to shoot from any unsupported position.

If there were a way to let the SAW be more available and have the M240G, PKM and other 'heavier' MGs as a limited team kit, I would be all for it.

[AnRK]

I don't think it's really fair for that to happen, but given the SAWs lighter ammo etc, it makes sense for it to have an edge over the others in CQB, although conversely it shouldn't be as good at range. Those are both probably in game already though.

The Chinese Type95-whatever variant it is also has pretty light ammo, using the same as the Type 95 itself, but it's always been pretty accurate and controllable compared to the others, just with the trade off of less power and much less ammo.