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Old 10-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #11
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I prefer the Landrover too. It's somewhat of an original to me playing PR. It's not PR without the landrover!
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #12
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why not setup the old saxon? or is that long and gone from the british arsenal.
because the Saxon is retired.


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Old 10-06-2008, 04:26 PM   #13
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but whats the possibility of finding a land rover rolling down the streets of baghdad ? just as an example.. I'm sure the Land rover is better suited in the rocky afghanistan tho
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:33 PM   #14
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but whats the possibility of finding a land rover rolling down the streets of baghdad ? just as an example.. I'm sure the Land rover is better suited in the rocky afghanistan tho
very much so , the land drovers in iraq have alot more armor and they mainly using them new apcs now


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Old 10-06-2008, 06:50 PM   #15
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Landy's IIRC are used in FSGs etc, not as troop transport, as gazz mentioned, APCs are primary troop transport. And also bad reference I know, but in Generation Kill, the guys have a completely open top humvee. IIRC it's only recently due to insurgency warfare that the Humvee's are being up armoured.


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Old 10-06-2008, 07:14 PM   #16
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As the guys have said the landy you see in pr is fire support not a transport. The Jackal is the replacement for the wmik and will allow for better protection while still keeping the fast fire support abilitys that are required.

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The snatch was the version of landy that was a troop transport but that’s being dumped. For the reason of that while it may do ok in northern Ireland against stones and small arms the rpgs and IEDs of our conflicts today make it look like shredded tissue paper.

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Old 10-06-2008, 10:02 PM   #17
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Guys like to point out. unlike the US HMMWV (not hummer..that'l be the civi one) the Brtish WMIK LAND ROVER IS NOT A TRANSPORT VEHICLE, IT IS A FIRE SUPPORT Vehicle, meant to be light, agile and manovarable, hecnce no armour.. not like us HMMWV tht are so bogged down with armour, im supprised it can move and probly does Gallons to the meter!!

WIMK (weapon mount installation kit) is... well that is wot it is. not transport. And IRL the amount of kit that it carrys.. well it attached to the jeep everywhere, so provides them cover. But the idea of it is that it monovers into postion where most vehicles cnt get to, poor it's rain of fire down on the enemy and is gone again before it takes fire. So no dnt replace it. It is wot it is. Tho the brits are buying new Mastiffs and heavily-armed 4x4 Jackal patrol vehicles, and a number of lighter vehicles to replace the existing fleet of Viking personnel carriers. Have a look at those. But the Brit WMIK is not a transport, its a FIRE-SUPPORT vehicle.

Think tht is my victory there!!.

I MEAN LOOK ... http://www.defense-update.com/images...hmmwv_frag.jpg ITS LIKE A FRICKIN TANK.. now that sud be in PR tho .. right?? 0 and put all the kit on the WMIK'S and detail up more plz =)

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Old 10-06-2008, 10:06 PM   #18
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Make the cooldown time on the land rovers .50cal 15 seconds instead of 30 seconds ?


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Old 10-06-2008, 11:17 PM   #19
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Make the cooldown time on the land rovers .50cal 15 seconds instead of 30 seconds ?
Actually, I think that's a good idea. This would make up for the fact you can't accurately represent the get in and out time


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Old 10-06-2008, 11:20 PM   #20
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but whats the possibility of finding a land rover rolling down the streets of baghdad ? just as an example.. I'm sure the Land rover is better suited in the rocky afghanistan tho
Considering that the only British units deployed in Baghdad are UKSF and thier support units (mainly troops from 1 PARA) and said units spend much of thier time impersonating Americans so as not to draw unwanted attention, not very high.

That said the main landrovers deployed in Iraq are the SNATCH rather than the Wolf WIMK, and as such are armoured rather more substantially but dont have the same fire capabilities.

The replacement for the WIMK is the Supacat, where as the SNATCH is the Mastiff, Ridgeback and the Armoured Pinzgauer.

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