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Old 09-18-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default Engineers get SLAM or wrench destroys enemy structures

Since the engineers swapped C4 for trip mines it has gotten very difficult to remove enemy firebases and their secondary structures.

I know that you can knife the radio to reduce a firebase to its unconstructed state but unless you have an APC or the rare spec ops kit, it is very difficult to get rid of the unconstructed firebase, or other structures like the AA or 50-cals, especially if they are up on buildings.

I know that unconstructed firebases disappear after some time but i'd rather like to be able to destroy them once and for all, instead of guarding them against new shovelers.

My suggestion is giving engineers a single SLAM charge or allowing enemy structures (unconstructed firebases/50 cal/wire/AA) to be disassembled by the engineer wrench.
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Old 09-18-2008, 06:32 PM   #2
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I agree with the suggestion, but no need for double post So I suggest a MOD closes the other one and we concentrate on this one


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Old 09-18-2008, 06:37 PM   #3
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There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.


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Old 09-18-2008, 06:55 PM   #4
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There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.
The Royal Engineers are given plenty of dems kit on operations in case they need it. So can the Devs please give the Brits lots of C4 and screw everyone else!!!


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Old 09-18-2008, 07:08 PM   #5
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There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.
The combat engineers are the demolition teams, Soucy. They don't just build bridges, they blow them up. And they breach obstacles by blowing them up.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:20 PM   #6
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Give them proper SLAMs, I don't know if BAF use SLAMs, but in real life SLAMs work as both small mines and demo charges. Also they could have multitools for cutting barbed wire and other maybe more useful things.

Also, is it realistic for engineers to have breaching shotguns? Should a separate limited class get those?

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Old 09-18-2008, 07:40 PM   #7
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Give them proper SLAMs, I don't know if BAF use SLAMs, but in real life SLAMs work as both small mines and demo charges. Also they could have multitools for cutting barbed wire and other maybe more useful things.

Also, is it realistic for engineers to have breaching shotguns? Should a separate limited class get those?
No, the SLAM is a US only munition; it's basically a placeholder for every other faction. US combat engineers are trained in dynamic entry prior to deployments, which includes ballistic breaching techniques.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:00 PM   #8
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I would like to see either the engineer getting at least one SLAM, or the ability to un-wrench enemy vehicles and AA and deployable .50s and such.

Suppose you come across an abandoned enemy Nanjing in the field. The squad engineer takes his wrench and damages the Nanjing enough that it gets a flat tire. Or for an abandoned APC, the engineer takes his wrench and tracks it. Or he comes across a enemy AA from an old firebase, he destroys it. Same for the deployable .50s.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:04 PM   #9
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^^ Place a mine in front of it and hope to god they dont check it and drive it in that direction
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:16 PM   #10
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There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.
I'll respect you 98% of the time Lt, but this time you're just plain wrong. Engineers do destroy stuff with explosives. Modern engineers use different explosives for different situations. Now, I'll agree that Engineers shouldn't get SLAMs, but Engineers should get explosives. Should their explosives be the remote detonated C4 that the SF get? No, it should be a C4 that uses a time delay fuse and must actually be placed/set up, and not just thrown like the SF c4.
I've discussed this before in Tartantyco's feedback thread about how he (and others) were disconted with the 0.8 engineer.


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