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Old 03-09-2006, 09:05 AM   #1
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As we know, the black hawk holds way more ppl than just 6. I think it holds arround dobal that ammount but the Devs here will know for sure.

I think we would all like to see the black hawk hold much more crew and make it more realistic but then again, we could have 6 engineers with spanners sitting in the back repairing it.....

As the coders here know, its not hard to add passangers to a object but i aint 100% sure if 6 is the limmit or if it can take more. I would imagine that it would be posssibal to go over 6.

This is not a very hard thing to do as long as you dont run into any probs with a limmit of 6 ppl max, but if there is no limmit then it would be incredibaly easy to do and you could probaly do this in under 1hr tops.

What do you guys think about this and also dose any 1 have the excat specs for how manny ppl the blackhawk can take?

I found here that it can take a crew of three and can lift an entire 11-man fully-equipped infantry squad.


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Old 03-09-2006, 09:17 AM   #2
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good point

also, since the primary US force is the Marine Corp, maybe some of the maps with carriers in em (specificially anyway) should have the CH-53 "Sea Stallion" (or the "Pavelow" variant), its Marine equipment anyway, and we all know EA in all their brainyness put in tons of crap that the forces would never have. The wikipedia article claims IRL it has a crew of 4 and can carry 37 troops (or 24 stretchers) - obviously it wouldnt carry nearly this many ingame (the whole team on a 64 man server!).

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Old 03-09-2006, 09:46 AM   #3
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Problem with in creasing the capacity of the blackhawk is that no one would want to be in it. As of now, blackhawks are usually filled with 3 people, pilot/gunner/gunner as being a passenger is too much of a liability with the APC's and tanks rolling around, not to mention the ground AA and AT fire.
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Old 03-09-2006, 09:47 AM   #4
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I don't know what the limits of the game engine would be but it truely realistic may be to much for this game. It would be good if the BH could hold 9, say 1 pilot & 2 gunners plus a squad (6) this would give a good balance between realism and achivability.

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Old 03-09-2006, 09:56 AM   #5
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I don't know what the limits of the game engine would be but it truely realistic may be to much for this game. It would be good if the BH could hold 9, say 1 pilot & 2 gunners plus a squad (6) this would give a good balance between realism and achivability.

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I agree. It seems like a good balance. Plus, A cunning pilot shouldn't have to worry about tanks and such...


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Old 03-09-2006, 10:23 AM   #6
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Problem with in creasing the capacity of the blackhawk is that no one would want to be in it. As of now, blackhawks are usually filled with 3 people, pilot/gunner/gunner as being a passenger is too much of a liability with the APC's and tanks rolling around, not to mention the ground AA and AT fire.
Well from what i can see in BF2, no 1 wants to be a passnger. In PRMM APCs and choppers are used in the right way, for transport. This is what i want to see, a chopper setting down troops outside a point so they can run in then have a exstraction after. With the APC me and my clan have manny times, just piled the whole squad inside, gone to a point and then when we are close they all hop out move in with the APC porviding cover.

Its all about teamwork, more ppl in the chopper, only can mean more teamwork


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Old 03-09-2006, 11:08 AM   #7
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The Black hawk can carry up to 20 lightly-equipped troops. However, the normal combat load is a three man crew and 11 fully-equipped infantrymen.

I say a crew of three and six spaces would be good if we can get 8 man squads into it (if beta's ideas; http://realitymod.com/forum/t3748-cl...n-lengthy.html are implemented the chopper pilot will stay in the copter and wait for the men to be extracted.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:36 AM   #8
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yeah I think the crew should stay in and an infantry squad (however big that may be but I'm not sure if they can increase this from 6) should be getting in and out
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:51 AM   #9
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How many fit in it now? Atleast 6 people not including the pilot should be able to get in it.


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Old 03-09-2006, 12:06 PM   #10
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Choppers just get blown out of the sky with the 1.2 patch. Not much incentive for full squad helo insertion when you get pwnd 9/10 times.
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