The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships

[[R-DEV]Eddie Baker]

Originally Posted by Harrod200

Ok, TBH that was the only thing I could find that was suitable for the UK. Couldn't even find any pics with the optional 20mm on it, so I kinda guessed it wasn't exactly a vessel used in hot mid-east patrols.

I'd imagine that in areas like 'stan, we would be at a major disadvantage when patrolling rivers, given the forested green zones either side of them; kinda like the yanks in Vietnam. Can't be too enjoyable chugging down narrow rivers lined with trees and undergrowth so thick you can't even see more than a couple of metres in.

If it makes you feel better, we've only recently gotten back into this game. The USMC Small Craft Company was formed pretty much from scratch in the late 80s/early 90s after recognizing a need for a riverine capability (beyond just the Special Boat elements of NSW) in the SOUTHCOM AO (Central/South America and Caribbean); their first coxswains received their training from the Coast Guard SMTC, which has a small reservation on Camp Lejeune. Once they realized how effective and necessary they were in Iraq, the Navy decided it was an important capability and expanded upon it (while disbanding the unit that had proved the concept *shrugs*). Perhaps the MoD will learn from this too and develop an improved riverine/small patrol craft capability? RM and RE certainly have enough well trained small boat handlers to make it work if they get armed boats, and they've already been doing a good job with what they have.

Originally Posted by Sabre_tooth_tigger

Sounds good and how about the chinook or blackhawk even being able to deploy a small boat

Zodiacs and "duck drops" have been suggested before, and these boats are widely used (or duplicated) enough to be generic to each faction. I have suggested on the DEV forum that I would like to see them become the single squad water transport (6 men- one of the squad members as coxswain), with larger boats, unique (as we can get) to each faction, carrying an entire squad plus coxswain and gunner.

[EOD_Security-2252]

I support replacing the RIBs with SURCs (what is shown the first couple of pictures), but only USMC uses SURCs, so someone would need to research riverine crafts on a more international level.
Currently, PR doesn't really use naval forces enough to warrant this, but I think it would be great if PR did use more boats (and if RIB was replaced with SURC it would be realistic too).

[Sadist_Cain]

rivers aren't very well implented in the game at all imo they just seem stuck in certain places to funnel the flow of heavy vehicles.

If ever there's a boat in PR I use it, the idea isnt to patrol the waters and rule them (the Rhib is pointlerss for that) but it gives you a fast direct insertion that can be very secretive

a river congo map would be cool with insurgnets hiding drug caches or summin similar

there's a lot of focus in PR about air and ground fighting but not a lot to do with rivers apart from Bi Ming which only just qualify

Lotsa potential for this to be used and not a lot of reason not to, apart from extra work :P

[[R-DEV]Eddie Baker]

Originally Posted by EOD_Security-2252

I support replacing the RIBs with SURCs (what is shown the first couple of pictures), but only USMC uses SURCs

The 2MARDIV Small Craft Company was disbanded and the riverine mission belongs to the Navy again. The SURC has been re-designated as the "Riverine Patrol Boat (RPB)," and the Marines' inventory of them transferred to the RIVRONs, along with newly purchased boats.

[chuckMFd]

wHAT ABOUT the use of mini subs for the ultimate stealth insertion lets say a six man version!! Now were talkin!!

Submarine, homemade and cocaine-laden, is seized off Mexico - Los Angeles Times

[Hotrod525]

You're SMALLEST costal defense boat got a 40MM buffer and 2 HARPOON's Battery are you sure it is the weakest ? LOL!

[[R-DEV]Eddie Baker]

Originally Posted by Hotrod525

You're SMALLEST costal defense boat got a 40MM buffer and 2 HARPOON's Battery are you sure it is the weakest ? LOL!

Who were you talking to?

[[R-MOD]Bob_Marley]

The Brits could use those hover crafts the RMs have, on the plus side they can traverse land and very shallow water, on the down side they've only got a GPMG strapped to the roof.

[EOD_Security-2252]

Thanks Bob, but that would make it a bit unfair, unless we're going to ditch all vessels for hovercrafts? (I don't like the idea, but then again, I don't like hovercrafts).

[[R-DEV]Masaq]

Originally Posted by EOD_Security-2252

Thanks Bob, but that would make it a bit unfair, unless we're going to ditch all vessels for hovercrafts? (I don't like the idea, but then again, I don't like hovercrafts).

As Eddie said above, get past the idea that every faction has to have the same equipment