Ballistics or Tracers?

[hiberNative]

moar tracers! i'd love to have all rounds tracers on light machineguns and anything automatic above!
does anyone have a video what that would look like? looks great in my head ;P
i'd like the assault rifles and small arms like that better without tracers.

[cyberzomby]

Keep in mind that altough it would look awesome! Its not realistic. It would look like your playing a star wars game :P

[llPANCHOll]

WHAT WAS THE FINAL APPLICATION IN .8?? I cant bring myself to read all 13 pages of this.

[[R-MOD]Spec]

pff, 13 pages is nothing

Nothing happened in 0.8.

[Psykogundam]

theres allways 0.850

[[R-DEV]Jaymz]

Originally Posted by Sadist_Cain

I likes the idea of ballistics but im really not sure that saying "crazy 0.8 deviation" "and back to 0.7" is the right way to get your point across

Even though deviation in 0.85 is getting an overhaul. The implementation of realistic ballistics would require more finite accuracy either way as it would make shooting more difficult. It's a shame this is all being held back by those damn hardcoded tracers...

Funny though, Armed Assault has all their rifles firing tracers every round. It just doesn't look that ridiculous since their not that noticeable.

[Rico11b]

Adding realistic ballistics all by it self would be a deviation overhaul. You are right though. It's ashamed all this cool stuff is being held back by that stupid hardcoded tracer issue. Man there just has to be away around it, I'm just not smart enough to find it

I do have a question. Is there any way to code the tracer bullets to "lose" mass as it is traveling downrange?
That's what happens in real life. As the bullet travels downrange the glowing tracer element is burning away, thus maker the bullet lighter and lighter as it travels downrange.

[zangoo]

From the bf2 code side of it, reducing mass overtime isnt possible and from my rather simple knowlage of bf2 python there is no way to edit a objects mass once it has been created in the gameworld.

Also in then end this wouldnt help reduce the tracer bug at all, infact it would increase it alot.

If we did keep the tracer bug it wouldnt effect firefights up to about 300m as the gun is zeroed at that range and it is just point and click. But under those ranges there isnt much time for the tracer projectile to be effected by gravity, allowing it to keep a somewhat similar flight path to the normal projectile. Also the guns that would be shooting longer ranges like the m24, pkm and other lmg, hitting point targets wouldnt be a huge issue even then you would still have 3 good rounds for every 1 bad round, Making tracers more of a directional help instead of exactly where the rounds are landing.

For snipers and marksman it wouldnt effect them at all as they do not fire tracer rounds for various reasons.

[Zeppelin35]

I say that we take out tracers and use this realistic deviation system until we can find a fix, Tracers help the enemy more than the person shooting. Half the time the reason I find where someone is shooting from is because I see where a tracer came from.

[zangoo]

if you took out tracers it would become very hard to learn where to shoot with the new ballistics as they are the only part that would allow you to see where your shots are hitting.