Spawntime Battlechoppers and so on

[101 bassdrive]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

Get rid of smacktards/TKers/basrapers.

Take away an AAV and AA kit.

Get rid of lag/instakill barbed wire.

Add stabilization.


Then I will be happy with a 20 min respawn, but until then 10 would be good.

The engagement distances are not realistic, the AA is more powerful, there is no gunner stabilization, at least give the choppers a bit of the deadly advantage they deserve. And don´t get me started on the amount of smacktards and TKers, or even the lag that can cripple a team and ruin ones game.

fully agree.
the airassetts dont even come close to the capabilities their reallife counterparts have.
the anti measurements on ground though come very proximal.

Im often on thors and I have to say it plays out better then the original layout. after all, the map is ment to depict a materiel battle.

[Mora]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

Sort of misses the point. I think tanks aswell should be on 10 min respawn.

I am not implying that AA should be weaker, oh no, but respawn staying the same and AA getting more powerful is just not fun, oh, maybe realistic, who knows, but not fun.

I avoid AA at all costs, have no doubt, but on a public server, how do you know where the AAV is, unless you go there? I am talking about a random public game, not the PRT or the "oh so wonderful TG games".

I play PR for fun, and I thought it was meant to be a fun, realism and teamwork based game. But maybe I am wrong, because when half your tanks get destroyed, 2 are being soled somewhere randomly the choppers are TKed and there is a HAT raping everything leaving main, that is 20 minutes of walking around a huge map (don´t get me wrong, I love them) getting owned by god knows what waiting for something to fight back with.

I know everyone says, oh well thats your teams fault etc.. Well everyone seems to be in a dream, because most public games are not like that and I don´t feel I should have my game and time wasted by 31 other people messing around.


Don´t get me wrong, I think PR is going the right way. But people are hardcoded, and sometimes things need to be adjusted for this.

I couldn't agree more .

[Dempsey]

I'm surpized this discussion is still on going.

A chopper is a vital peice of kit, be it troop transport, a attack gunship or a scout aircraft.

This is why people need to realise, they need to know how to fly these things before they get into them.

Although this could be contreversial with lag and server problems, but i think there should be some kind of penalty for destroying friendly assests, every server i go on there is bound to be some idiot nosediving.

[101 bassdrive]

20min is to harsh. thats 1200 seconds.
it takes out the excitement of many maps when the air is empty.
zatar aint the same with no koordinated ah6 diveattacks to fear or to pull off, qwai aint the same without the scout chasing the mh6's..
air assetts are BOUND to *insert reason here* crash.
then 20min nothing?

[Dempsey]

But, when you have chopper after chopper in the sky, that takes the fun out of it.

Get real pilots, and dont loose the choppers.

[Leo]

*Didn't read the whole thread*

I think the way to fix this is to take the same approach as the jets on Kashan.

Instead of it being 20 minutes after you crash, it should be 20 minutes after the chopper has left the helipad, after those 20 minutes are up, then the chopper will hold spawn until ~3 minutes after the last chopper crashed. So that's a 23 minute spawn time from the second the chopper has left the base. Right now you are punished for crashing, but aren't rewarded for keeping the chopper up. This would help because now if you have kept your chopper up for say, 40 minutes, but you lag crash or some enemy gets the better of you, you don't have to wait 20 min, you can just jump back in your chopper and whore away.

I'm fairly sure that the military IRL isn't like 'Well, they already have a chopper, so even if they have a crew available, why send them this extra one left here unused? Let's wait until one of them crashes'

[Alex6714]

Originally Posted by Dempsey

But, when you have chopper after chopper in the sky, that takes the fun out of it.

Get real pilots, and dont loose the choppers.

As good as a pilot you are, you can´t stop TK, baserape, lag or "that AA they forgot to tell you about in D5, next to the 2 tanks they asked for CAS on".

[@bsurd]

Wow, such a tread for 1 simple question. But im new in this game, its fun to play, but some things are boring on public servers ....

and thats why agree with this.

Originally Posted by Alex6714

Sort of misses the point. I think tanks aswell should be on 10 min respawn.

I am not implying that AA should be weaker, oh no, but respawn staying the same and AA getting more powerful is just not fun, oh, maybe realistic, who knows, but not fun.

I avoid AA at all costs, have no doubt, but on a public server, how do you know where the AAV is, unless you go there? I am talking about a random public game, not the PRT or the "oh so wonderful TG games".

I play PR for fun, and I thought it was meant to be a fun, realism and teamwork based game. But maybe I am wrong, because when half your tanks get destroyed, 2 are being soled somewhere randomly the choppers are TKed and there is a HAT raping everything leaving main, that is 20 minutes of walking around a huge map (don´t get me wrong, I love them) getting owned by god knows what waiting for something to fight back with.

I know everyone says, oh well thats your teams fault etc.. Well everyone seems to be in a dream, because most public games are not like that and I don´t feel I should have my game and time wasted by 31 other people messing around.


Don´t get me wrong, I think PR is going the right way. But people are hardcoded, and sometimes things need to be adjusted for this.

and i have a question @ the server admins.

What is the Problem with maps in many differnt settings on servers? Its reality 2 i think. Its war, not everytime the same situation, Vehicles, mans and so on...

[[R-DEV]MAINERROR]

It's cause the rules tell us to run unmodified maps cause otherwise I could add 10 cobras and 5 A-10s just imagine how that would end.

[GrayeKnight]

What is the problem? Server admins must agree to the rules set forth by the PR DEV's, which as Mainerror pointed out earlier, clearly state that any SSM (server side mods) of servers must happen on a passworded server.