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Old 02-07-2006, 05:25 PM   #1
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The Minimi is to replace the L86 LSW but is PR adding the L86 anyway and if not/so why?
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Old 02-08-2006, 03:51 AM   #2
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L86, Sa80A2, Minimi, L85 +UGL, possibly even the carbine should all be ingame, However, don't quote me on that.


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Old 02-08-2006, 05:19 AM   #3
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L86 that thing is more sniper then LSW.

(well i would snipe with it)

what are the different fireing modes on it??


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Old 02-08-2006, 10:27 AM   #4
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isnt the minimi just a SAW with a massive scope on it? :S


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Old 02-08-2006, 10:38 AM   #5
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Minimi is supposedly a para version of the SAW, meaning its just had some of the fat trimmed off it. eg barrel length, stock is colapsable etc. As for the scope, it is possible to mount scopes on them.

Also, I read some where the LSW was be considered as a marksman rifle because of its accuracy and yes, it does have selectbale fire modes (Semi and Full).
Only major diferrence between the SA80 and the LSW is its barrel lenght and the inclussion of a bipod.


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Old 02-08-2006, 12:27 PM   #6
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hold on a second.... i thought minimi is the original version of M249 that was made by FN, while the M249 SAW is the version that the US armed forces requested. Because i remember that there was a para minimi. And as far as i know the only visible physical difference between the two is the lack of heat shield on minimi and a different buttstock. There are other differences on internal parts as well but i forgot what modification was made for SAW.
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Old 02-08-2006, 12:39 PM   #7
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But the SA80 is one of the most accurate assult rifles to date - Infact it proberly is, the LSW is just a support version that ended up sniper version, But of corse its being recycled into SA80's now.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:36 PM   #8
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hold on a second.... i thought minimi is the original version of M249 that was made by FN, while the M249 SAW is the version that the US armed forces requested. Because i remember that there was a para minimi. And as far as i know the only visible physical difference between the two is the lack of heat shield on minimi and a different buttstock. There are other differences on internal parts as well but i forgot what modification was made for SAW.
That is correct. The earlier model FN Minimi had a fixed tubular, skeleton buttstock. When it was selected as the XM249 SAW, changes to the base design requested. Some of these earlier Minimis were seen in use in Operation Desert Storm with US forces alongside the few production M249s that had made it into the field. Now the FN Minimi has the same pattern buttstock used on the M249.

The Minimi-Para is now designated the L110A1 in UK service, but was used by the SAS in ODS and likely through that decade in the former Yugoslavia and Sierra Leone.
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Old 02-08-2006, 06:31 PM   #9
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yeah man the scopes are sexyyyyy


, fat ass ones too.(another difference with the LSW to SA80 is it has the back butt handle (which makes it unbelievably easy to control when firing), and the hand gaurd is slightly different.


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But the SA80 is one of the most accurate assult rifles to date - Infact it proberly is, the LSW is just a support version that ended up sniper version, But of corse its being recycled into SA80's now.
It became a sniper because, as a LSW it was a complete joke. How can it be a support weapon with only 30 rounds? On top of that, it jams like crazy if used in full auto, so it's pretty much limited to semi. The whole SA-80 family is bugged with field reliability issues that harken to the days of the M16 in Vietnam.

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