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Old 09-24-2008, 10:03 AM   #71
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Default Re: One Man Armor (Tanks and APC's)

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First shot is not the winning shot, if the crew is new to tanking they'll panic and set you up nicely, if the crew is experiance, the Gunner, Driver or .50 is going to have identified where the shot came from, they're going to see you and snap off a shot or smoke out the area and haul ass, then they'll come at you from behind, or ask infantry to come at you from behind. The ability to deploy smoke allows the tank to create its own cover, and just where are you ambushing that the tank can just drive out of your LOS?
Like i said, dont pick up location where he can escape before your killing shot. Ofc they can get 1 shot to you IF they are experienced crew, happens quite rarely and when it does i go to repair. But first shooter, reloads first and gets the killing shot first. And for infantry it takes forever to get to the tank without dying. There is plenty of time before you have pissed off that many enemies that they start hunting towards you with AT and C4. And before smoke has spread so that you cant see through it, you have already shot the 2nd shot.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:12 AM   #72
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Like i said, dont pick up location where he can escape before your killing shot. Ofc they can get 1 shot to you IF they are experienced crew, happens quite rarely and when it does i go to repair. But first shooter, reloads first and gets the killing shot first. And for infantry it takes forever to get to the tank without dying. There is plenty of time before you have pissed off that many enemies that they start hunting towards you with AT and C4. And before smoke has spread so that you cant see through it, you have already shot the 2nd shot.
There is no spot on the map that provides both concealment heavy enough to hide your tank and an unobstructed view, so unless you're sitting in a wide open plain, they can get away, and if the tank crew is savvy enough, they'll turn to face you for your next shot and live to face a third.


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Old 09-24-2008, 10:16 AM   #73
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There is no spot on the map that provides both concealment heavy enough to hide your tank and an unobstructed view, so unless you're sitting in a wide open plain, they can get away, and if the tank crew is savvy enough, they'll turn to face you for your next shot and live to face a third.
Depends on the map, and atleast i have never had much trouble finding good spots for ambushing with tank in whatever map. Or with any vehicle or actually even as infantry. Actually im almost always playing sneaky tactics, no matter is it vehicle or squad, meaning i dont really use that much of combat tactics, instead i try to use tactics that leaves enemies no chances at all, sneak, surprice, anti-stereotypical moves, ambush. It turns out to be super fun when entire squad has been organized to do the same sometimes (when im SL that is) Point is solo tanking ambushing/defending, uses same skills as all kind of sneaking uses, and in general ppls sneaking skills are this: "there is enemies that hasnt spotted us! "*shoots at the enemy right after spotting them* 10 enemies turns their attention to that guy.. --> that guy's squad is dead soon after. So if you cant sneak-kill multiple enemies without being noticed, i dont think you can solo tank either. But some ppl can for sure.

And btw krhmm, that "kills streak" from my sign, 82 kills without dying, came from solo tanking in time when there was already 3 slots in tanks.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:54 AM   #74
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i really cant be assed to read this thread, but my input is:

no driver = gun dosnt work.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:06 AM   #75
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Depends on the map, and atleast i have never had much trouble finding good spots for ambushing with tank in whatever map. Or with any vehicle or actually even as infantry. Actually im almost always playing sneaky tactics, no matter is it vehicle or squad, meaning i dont really use that much of combat tactics, instead i try to use tactics that leaves enemies no chances at all, sneak, surprice, anti-stereotypical moves, ambush. It turns out to be super fun when entire squad has been organized to do the same sometimes (when im SL that is) Point is solo tanking ambushing/defending, uses same skills as all kind of sneaking uses, and in general ppls sneaking skills are this: "there is enemies that hasnt spotted us! "*shoots at the enemy right after spotting them* 10 enemies turns their attention to that guy.. --> that guy's squad is dead soon after. So if you cant sneak-kill multiple enemies without being noticed, i dont think you can solo tank either. But some ppl can for sure.

And btw krhmm, that "kills streak" from my sign, 82 kills without dying, came from solo tanking in time when there was already 3 slots in tanks.
If PR ever includes Tank Destroyers into the mix, your tactics will no doubt make you an expert as the defining trait of a Tank Destroyer is the lack of a rotating turret and thus cannot fire on the move unless it is charging the target, and forces it to rely on stealth and ambush. However, as MBTs have said turrets, their mobile firepower is more useful to a team than being immobile. This is not to say tanks should not ambush, only that they cannot afford to handicap themselves by removing their mobility advantage.


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