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Old 02-18-2008, 03:09 PM   #11
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the 7.62 should kill in one shot. Upon entrance of the body the bullet begins tumbpling causing massive inner organ damage resulting in either instant death if you're lucky or years of rehabilitation and countless surgeries. The same does apply for the 5.56 although not in the same extent because of its smaller dimension.

The 9mm hollowpoint will break up upon entry into the body and shread several organs and cause inner bleeding but not instant death also this round will be stopped by the most basic body armour and in some cases even heavy clothing.


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Old 02-18-2008, 03:11 PM   #12
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the 7.62 should kill in one shot. Upon entrance of the body the bullet begins tumbpling causing massive inner organ damage resulting in either instant death if you're lucky or years of rehabilitation and countless surgeries. The same does apply for the 5.56 although not in the same extent because of its smaller dimension.

The 9mm hollowpoint will break up upon entry into the body and shread several organs and cause inner bleeding but not instant death also this round will be stopped by the most basic body armour and in some cases even heavy clothing.
But i think the military use FMJ for their sidearms, dont they? Are hollowpoint bullets even allowed for non-civilian and
-police use? (Pain and stuff)
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:14 PM   #13
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so it does that even with a hit in your arm huh, marko?

that has to be factored in too.

Bullet damage is not random, it CAN be calculated (in fact it has been, for every rifle in the game).

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Old 02-18-2008, 04:26 PM   #14
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What Outlawz means about the SVD ROF, is that currently it fires as fast as I click. He wants it to only be able to fire once every two seconds.

Fire <two second pause> Fire <two second pause> Fire <etc>

Though I'm not sure why, as it's a simiautomatic weapon.


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Old 02-18-2008, 04:37 PM   #15
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Well, if SVD has a rate of fire 30 rounds per minute and one minute has 60 seconds, then 60/30= 2 seconds.


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Old 02-18-2008, 04:39 PM   #16
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Btw, how much protection does a helmet give you against pistol ammo? And are the chances of critical wounds without penetration in the head region high?
a 9mm pistol ammo wouldn't penetrate a kevlar helmet. Or at least it shouldn't, of course everything can happen but those helmets are supposed to be able to stop 9mm bullets. Not sure about the seconds part, but I'd imagine that no. The bullet is very light, so even though it moves fast the total force isn't that big.

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But i think the military use FMJ for their sidearms, dont they?
Yes. Expanding and exploding 'small' calibre(as in something like less than 20mm) bullets are banned by some convention thingy.

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What Outlawz means about the SVD ROF, is that currently it fires as fast as I click. He wants it to only be able to fire once every two seconds.

Fire <two second pause> Fire <two second pause> Fire <etc>

Though I'm not sure why, as it's a simiautomatic weapon.
maybe the website states that the ROF is 30 because that is the 'accurate' ROF. As in you can shoot the whole mag in 10 seconds but you will have trouble hitting a wall, but with 30 rounds per min all of the shots are accurate. Again, not sure about this, but I'd imagine that it can shoot faster than 1 bullet every 2 seconds.


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Old 02-18-2008, 04:41 PM   #17
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the 7.62 should kill in one shot. Upon entrance of the body the bullet begins tumbpling causing massive inner organ damage resulting in either instant death if you're lucky or years of rehabilitation and countless surgeries. The same does apply for the 5.56 although not in the same extent because of its smaller dimension.
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so the 5.56 NATO tumbles ??? *runs to the hills in wait of impending wrath*


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maybe the website states that the ROF is 30 because that is the 'accurate' ROF. As in you can shoot the whole mag in 10 seconds but you will have trouble hitting a wall, but with 30 rounds per min all of the shots are accurate. Again, not sure about this, but I'd imagine that it can shoot faster than 1 bullet every 2 seconds.
Well, the site states that the ROF is between 35-40, but the practical ROF is 30.

So probably something along the lines said above in the quote.


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so the 5.56 NATO tumbles ??? *runs to the hills in wait of impending wrath*
I heard it was all to do with hydrostatic shock




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Old 02-18-2008, 04:52 PM   #20
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so it does that even with a hit in your arm huh, marko?

that has to be factored in too.

Bullet damage is not random, it CAN be calculated (in fact it has been, for every rifle in the game).
if your hit in the arm the bullet can deflect from the bone and into other vital parts. I remember reading somewhere that a guy who got shot in the leg got the bullet deflected and it ended up in his liver killing him. Also due to partial fragmentation of the bullet even if it is FMJ the scarp metal pieces ending up in the blood and cutting veins and so on.

hydrostatic shock? isnt that like an overwhelming of the nerve system that causes your heart to simply stop? in that case i dont think its very usual in gunshot wounds more in hand grenades explosions so on. Vever mind i did a search on wikipedia and found a nice quote.

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Martin Fackler (and others) claim that the theory of hydrostatic shock has been conclusively disproven and that the assertion that a pressure wave plays a role in injury or incapacitation is a myth.[3] Tissue behaves similarly enough to water that a sonic pressure wave can be created by a bullet impact, generating pressures in excess of 100 atmospheres.[4]


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