Weapon loadouts on the J-10 and EF-2000 - Page 3

~~ralfidude~~ · 05-03-2008, 02:16 PM

well the thing is that its easy to land a eurofighter to rearm. But when it comes down to the j10s, as far as im concerned, when they take off, they never return alive. Yes, they do try to land... but no they are never sucessfull, including myself. I touched down on the runway, but the speed is always way too fast before i would crash at the other end, and if i go any slower than that, i always end up face first at the fence... more bombs on the j10 would be a tad bit more effective, but i do see what the guys are talking about with the balance here. So i agree to leave it as it is... but for gods sake fix the j10, lol, OR the runway.

turnpipe · 05-03-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ralfidude

well the thing is that its easy to land a eurofighter to rearm. But when it comes down to the j10s, as far as im concerned, when they take off, they never return alive. Yes, they do try to land... but no they are never sucessfull, including myself. I touched down on the runway, but the speed is always way too fast before i would crash at the other end, and if i go any slower than that, i always end up face first at the fence... more bombs on the j10 would be a tad bit more effective, but i do see what the guys are talking about with the balance here. So i agree to leave it as it is... but for gods sake fix the j10, lol, OR the runway.

They are going to fix the j10, I think. I must say the physics on it are a work of art and chock full of challenge accompanied by the gauntlet of a runway. I have been practicing for months and can never get quite comfortable landing it.

Sabre_tooth_tigger · 05-03-2008, 03:24 PM

Ages ago I read a suggestion about tree clearance next to the runway, I think its been noted anyhow

CAS_117 · 05-03-2008, 04:46 PM

Well... The jets do have unlimited fuel. So I am not sure about increasing the loadout much. I've outfitted the F-16 with GBU-12's and AGM-65 Mavericks. Don't see any real issues with the F-16 having bombs, cept that the MiG-29 doesn't really use as many laser guided bombs as opposed to missiles; the Kh-29 looks much sexier than the say LT-2. I think having them with AGM-65's and Kh-29's would be best, but it doesn't change the game too much.

Viper5 · 05-03-2008, 05:45 PM

More weight = less maneuverability. They dont load these things to the max. Think about it. If a soldier had to, he could prolly carry thousands of roudns of ammo. But he doesnt. Why? Becuause it would slow him down.

IMO Fighters (Eurofighter, J10, Mig29, F16, F1

should have:
4x Long Range AA Missiles
1x JDAM

Fighter-Bombers- (Gr.9, AV-8B, F15, not sure on PLA/MEC equivalents) should have:
2x Short Range
2x Long Range
2x Mavericks or rocket pods
1x JDAM

Bombers-SU25, Tornado, A10, whatever the hell that ugly ass PLA thing is, SU25
2x JDAM
Rockets
4x Maverick

Jonny · 05-03-2008, 05:46 PM

The fuel is actually limited to four hours worth, you cant claim more because of the max time.

[R-DEV]Rhino · 05-03-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper5

Fighter-Bombers- (Gr.9, AV-8B, F15, not sure on PLA/MEC equivalents) should have:
2x Short Range
2x Long Range
2x Mavericks or rocket pods
1x JDAM

Bombers-SU25, Tornado, A10, whatever the hell that ugly ass PLA thing is, SU25
2x JDAM
Rockets
4x Maverick

lolz...

a harrier GR9 / II are not a fighter bombers...

the Tornado is not a bomber and the A-10 and Su-25 are also not bombers...

The Tornado GR4, F-15, SU-34 and SU-30mkk are all fighter bombers.

The Harrier GR9 / II, A-10, Su-25 are all Attack Jets.

~~Waaah_Wah~~ · 05-03-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]CAS_117

Well... The jets do have unlimited fuel. So I am not sure about increasing the loadout much. I've outfitted the F-16 with GBU-12's and AGM-65 Mavericks. Don't see any real issues with the F-16 having bombs, cept that the MiG-29 doesn't really use as many laser guided bombs as opposed to missiles; the Kh-29 looks much sexier than the say LT-2. I think having them with AGM-65's and Kh-29's would be best, but it doesn't change the game too much.

Eyy! Congratz with the promotion

Viper5 · 05-03-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

lolz...

a harrier GR9 / II are not a fighter bombers...

the Tornado is not a bomber and the A-10 and Su-25 are also not bombers...

The Tornado GR4, F-15, SU-34 and SU-30mkk are all fighter bombers.

The Harrier GR9 / II, A-10, Su-25 are all Attack Jets.

meh, everyone understood the point. Im guessing you'd class the F117 as a bomber :P

[R-DEV]Rhino · 05-03-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper5

meh, everyone understood the point. Im guessing you'd class the F117 as a bomber :P

yes thats cos the F117 is a bomber, and so is the B2

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05-03-2008, 02:16 PM	#21
~~ralfidude~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,120	well the thing is that its easy to land a eurofighter to rearm. But when it comes down to the j10s, as far as im concerned, when they take off, they never return alive. Yes, they do try to land... but no they are never sucessfull, including myself. I touched down on the runway, but the speed is always way too fast before i would crash at the other end, and if i go any slower than that, i always end up face first at the fence... more bombs on the j10 would be a tad bit more effective, but i do see what the guys are talking about with the balance here. So i agree to leave it as it is... but for gods sake fix the j10, lol, OR the runway.

05-03-2008, 04:46 PM	#24
CAS_117 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Canada Location: Daytona Beach Florida Posts: 1,558	Well... The jets do have unlimited fuel. So I am not sure about increasing the loadout much. I've outfitted the F-16 with GBU-12's and AGM-65 Mavericks. Don't see any real issues with the F-16 having bombs, cept that the MiG-29 doesn't really use as many laser guided bombs as opposed to missiles; the Kh-29 looks much sexier than the say LT-2. I think having them with AGM-65's and Kh-29's would be best, but it doesn't change the game too much.

05-03-2008, 05:45 PM	#25
Viper5 Join Date: Nov 2005 United States of America Location: Indiana/Massachussetts Posts: 3,277	More weight = less maneuverability. They dont load these things to the max. Think about it. If a soldier had to, he could prolly carry thousands of roudns of ammo. But he doesnt. Why? Becuause it would slow him down. IMO Fighters (Eurofighter, J10, Mig29, F16, F1 should have: 4x Long Range AA Missiles 1x JDAM Fighter-Bombers- (Gr.9, AV-8B, F15, not sure on PLA/MEC equivalents) should have: 2x Short Range 2x Long Range 2x Mavericks or rocket pods 1x JDAM Bombers-SU25, Tornado, A10, whatever the hell that ugly ass PLA thing is, SU25 2x JDAM Rockets 4x Maverick

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