Tanks: Destroyed or Damaged? - Page 2

Swe_Olsson · 01-18-2008, 02:08 AM

Its very unrealistic that a vehicle is repairing another one by itself, there for if its somehow possible to make the engineer wrench more powerful when a Engineering vehicle is within 5-10 meters radio. This could reflect that the engineering vehicle has quiet alot of utilities.

Althought a Stationary repair station would be the best, especially on Insurgancy maps

charliegrs · 01-18-2008, 02:28 AM

dont 2 and 3 kinda conflict? i mean 2 says it should take 6 or more shells to destroy a tank, but 3 says the crew should be killed in about 4 shells. well whos gonna actually try to destroy a tank if they know it only takes 4 shells to kill the crew, thus making the tank effectively destroyed. you would just have empty damaged tanks littering the battlefield, and none would respawn. i dont get it.

Sadist_Cain · 01-18-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by charliegrs

dont 2 and 3 kinda conflict? i mean 2 says it should take 6 or more shells to destroy a tank, but 3 says the crew should be killed in about 4 shells. well whos gonna actually try to destroy a tank if they know it only takes 4 shells to kill the crew, thus making the tank effectively destroyed. you would just have empty damaged tanks littering the battlefield, and none would respawn. i dont get it.

LMAO!

YOU DO GET IT! rofl you rule, you have described a battlefield with tanks...

lol this has made my morning

that's what happens to most tanks on a battlefield... it's the flakes of armour inside that shatter off and do damage to the sensitive equipment and bodies of the crew inside.

Legendary tank commander Colonel Vittman's Tiger tank was disabled by an anti tank gun after villers bocage. The crew had to destroy it fully themselves so the enemy couldnt repair it.
The crew were lucky to escape with their lives (did they all?)

$kelet0r · 01-18-2008, 02:46 AM

This is a great idea - it always bothered me how easily tanks went boom rather than being crippled or somewhat damaged

VipersGhost · 01-18-2008, 03:42 AM

I've heard that the Sabot Rounds pierce through a tanks pressurized cabin...thus GREATLY increasing the pressure for a mili-second and then piercing through the other side creating a horrid vacuum that destroys organic things inside it. Like a red spray paint shot out of the side of it. The sabot round isn't explosive and the uranium core is quite thin iirc.

Ghost1800 · 01-18-2008, 03:43 AM

I kinda like the idea myself... though you could apply the 2nd and 4th suggestion to ALL vehicles that lose functionality as they get damaged. Choppers would be a great vehicle to receive this treatment, make chopper pilots actually have to deal with compromised handling and maybe even make it so that the choppers can perform "crash landings" on good flat terrain.

Rudd · 01-18-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1800

"crash landings" on good flat terrain.

Might be asking alot there

Ghost1800 · 01-18-2008, 04:19 AM

I've seen it done with a Merlin on Al Basrah before, but the pilot didn't exactly have a lot of time to get away from the 2 second time bomb. Look at it this way, if the pilot can't do anything to keep the chopper from losing control and smacking into the ground at 200mph then it doesn't change much (well other then being able to enjoy the screams of those guys who were firing the miniguns all through the ride)... but if they can keep it together long enough to set it down on suitable terrain, the chopper is a loss but the personnel aren't. I'm not saying make them be able to stay up in the air against enemy fire longer, I just think the pilot should be able to stay with the aircraft till it's brought down by something that will truly destroy it (be it a high speed collision with our dear friend the ground or a 120mm HEAT shell)

P.S. obviously there are a lot less deadly weapons then a MBT cannon that can take down a chopper, but it'd be nice to see choppers actually make it to the ground, surviving or not.

Rudd · 01-18-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost1800

other then being able to enjoy the screams of those guys who were firing the miniguns all through the ride

Definately a reason to ensure the passenger's die

If its possible, It's definately worth looking in to.
A vid of exactly the kind of thing you saw would be helpful i think.

Ghost1800 · 01-18-2008, 04:27 AM

... well I can bring Delta down with a stinger if someone is able to record his landing... though I think the only times he's been able to crash land has been from .50 cal fire.

01-18-2008, 02:28 AM	#12
charliegrs Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: phoenix AZ USA Posts: 2,013	dont 2 and 3 kinda conflict? i mean 2 says it should take 6 or more shells to destroy a tank, but 3 says the crew should be killed in about 4 shells. well whos gonna actually try to destroy a tank if they know it only takes 4 shells to kill the crew, thus making the tank effectively destroyed. you would just have empty damaged tanks littering the battlefield, and none would respawn. i dont get it.
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VipersGhost Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,120	I've heard that the Sabot Rounds pierce through a tanks pressurized cabin...thus GREATLY increasing the pressure for a mili-second and then piercing through the other side creating a horrid vacuum that destroys organic things inside it. Like a red spray paint shot out of the side of it. The sabot round isn't explosive and the uranium core is quite thin iirc.
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01-18-2008, 02:08 AM	#11
Swe_Olsson Join Date: Apr 2007 Sweden Location: Sweden Posts: 1,031	Its very unrealistic that a vehicle is repairing another one by itself, there for if its somehow possible to make the engineer wrench more powerful when a Engineering vehicle is within 5-10 meters radio. This could reflect that the engineering vehicle has quiet alot of utilities. Althought a Stationary repair station would be the best, especially on Insurgancy maps

01-18-2008, 02:46 AM	#14
$kelet0r Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,406	This is a great idea - it always bothered me how easily tanks went boom rather than being crippled or somewhat damaged

01-18-2008, 03:43 AM	#16
Ghost1800 Join Date: May 2006 United States of America Location: Wouldnt you like to know Posts: 1,374	I kinda like the idea myself... though you could apply the 2nd and 4th suggestion to ALL vehicles that lose functionality as they get damaged. Choppers would be a great vehicle to receive this treatment, make chopper pilots actually have to deal with compromised handling and maybe even make it so that the choppers can perform "crash landings" on good flat terrain.

01-18-2008, 04:19 AM	#18
Ghost1800 Join Date: May 2006 United States of America Location: Wouldnt you like to know Posts: 1,374	I've seen it done with a Merlin on Al Basrah before, but the pilot didn't exactly have a lot of time to get away from the 2 second time bomb. Look at it this way, if the pilot can't do anything to keep the chopper from losing control and smacking into the ground at 200mph then it doesn't change much (well other then being able to enjoy the screams of those guys who were firing the miniguns all through the ride)... but if they can keep it together long enough to set it down on suitable terrain, the chopper is a loss but the personnel aren't. I'm not saying make them be able to stay up in the air against enemy fire longer, I just think the pilot should be able to stay with the aircraft till it's brought down by something that will truly destroy it (be it a high speed collision with our dear friend the ground or a 120mm HEAT shell) P.S. obviously there are a lot less deadly weapons then a MBT cannon that can take down a chopper, but it'd be nice to see choppers actually make it to the ground, surviving or not.

01-18-2008, 04:27 AM	#20
Ghost1800 Join Date: May 2006 United States of America Location: Wouldnt you like to know Posts: 1,374	... well I can bring Delta down with a stinger if someone is able to record his landing... though I think the only times he's been able to crash land has been from .50 cal fire.

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