Side project Idea:Pr Vietnam

[Noetheinner]

Here you go,

US and the Brits aginst S. American Drug Lord
The idea here is that some huge drug cartel has tanken over several small S. American countries and the US AND THE BRITS, go down and try to liberate those countries back to the origional governments.

Definitely something different, and I don't know what you could do about player models being different and stuff like that, but there you go!

well yea but who would want to play as inferior civilians wuth guns who get paid by druglords to be pretend to be soldiers? If it was done with realism the team who used a full time, big time government run full blown military force would wipe the ass of guerilla units like these. The druglords wouldnt have attack choppers, wouldnt have combat jet fighters or bombers, and probably not tanks, maybe, possibly some of the lower echelon ranked APCs and light armored vehicles like the LAPD and other Police and SWAT forces use.

If they did just happen to find a way to buy these pieces of equipment on the black market, how would they get qualifed personnel to operate the equipment. You would have to either give the guerillas the ability to operate all enemy vehicles. Becuase this is basically how they'd be learning use anything their personal "Pablo Escabar" would be purchasing for them to fight with.

Although, one funny idea lol would be maybe some way of letting them use enemy vehicles but that somehow the controls would be randomized for each person each time they attempt to use a vehicle postion that havent been in before, using whatever preselected keys you designated in control panel. Like example, you use W,A,S,D to drive a ground vehicle and have that set up in the game as such. Now trying to use a enemy tank or apc, you would still use W,A,S,D and all the other keys you told battlefield to use but, using W could do any one of the functions that the other keys do instead of 'drive forward', like maybe pop smoke, or fire the main gun, maybe turn left or back up. Heheh can you imangine the sight of that!!! LMAO it would be like watching someone drive a car who used both feet at the same time, or couldnt drive the manual transmission. Now say they took a few minutes away from action to go through all the controls and figure out what they had randomed to maybe he could do some good with it, but prolly would still mess up on occassion just from habit of thinking 'need to fire, hit left mouse, wait doh thats not fire this time'. Ok he exits the vehicle station, kills a spec ops running up to place c4, kills the spec ops and re-enters the controls would be the same, as he had already 'learned' this particular vehicle. Now other way around say he exits, dies to spec ops, and spec blows tank. Now, our guerilla spawns again and sneaks into another vehicle of the same type, well he hasnt learned this particular vehicle, its a new spawned one, so the controls would be different. This would more realistically recreate the different brain of the new soldier you spawned into having to learn it.

Now i know this is most likely not something that will ever be done with this engine but i just thought that would be a funny idea heheh.

[JellyBelly]

Originally Posted by Noetheinner

Here you go,

US and the Brits aginst S. American Drug Lord
The idea here is that some huge drug cartel has tanken over several small S. American countries and the US AND THE BRITS, go down and try to liberate those countries back to the origional governments.

Definitely something different, and I don't know what you could do about player models being different and stuff like that, but there you go!

It gets my vote.

[BrokenArrow]

I like evilhomer's idea as well as noethienner's idea. Except the American conflict. The US Navy is too strong to have anyone invade is sizeable force. and after that, forget about getting supplies.

I think the easiest way to tie a plausible story together is have it nearly entirely in Asia (with smaller conflicts in Africa).

As i said before the US and UK are already in the Middle East, so the MEC could be played off (maybe) as Iran and Syria finally having enough of it and banding together to boot them out. At the same time, China's booming population and economy is hungry. They don't trust the oil coming out of the middle east because alot of it has been intercepted by the MEC for use against the US.

China turns to North Korea and offers better nukes if they will invade the south. This is because china wants to tie down the US and other UN countries there while they make a grab towards Russia. At the same time, they offer Vietnam similar deals to turn against the US and other Western countries by offer so much money or supplies for every Western hostage they can take (these rescue ops will allow for Special Forces to be used, though I dont know about there being hostages to rescue).

With the US and UK tied down in Korea and Vietnam, China makes its move towards recource-rich Russia. Here's where alot of Euro nations can be put in, Canada too. Snow maps all over the place with china making a winter crossing of the river (cant remember the name) that divides it from Russia.

From here, you can run wild. Japan could make a return to imperalism (the standing government isn't making much money off of exports because all the countries are buying war materiel.) So a bad guy with good promises gains power there, builds up the military (using China's aggression as an excuse.) And citing the death of many Japanese reporters covering the war in China at the hands of the Allies (western nations), even though the Chinese are responsible, launches another campaign in the South Pacific.

There you have snow maps, jungle maps, island assault maps, forrest maps, desert maps and so on all tied together (sort of). It's a little expansion on my first post here, hope it's a littl better.

[Noetheinner]

Blu, If the drug lords have taken over a few small countries there in South America, then they definetly have access to the Army, mabbye have the Army working for them, so yeah, I'd say they could have a feasable force in their hands.

[Ghostrider]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Evilhomer

To raise a valid point from this topic, if we were to do a moden conflict as a side story, what would you all suggest? Preferably nothing middle east, but something innovative and new?

Something Innovative and New....hmmm

I don't know if this is innovative, but hopefully it'll at least be new. Since the available factions involve the MEC, China, and US, maybe this could be done in U.S. soil?

You could set up yet another hypothetical conflict where you could find China Invading U.S. and at the same time the MEC carrying out terrorist operations in U.S. soil simultaneously. Not to help out China, but to weaken U.S....which can also set up the stage for MEC vs China engagements.

So it could be good to incorporate battles in different U.S. territories including the deserts, jungles that could be found in National Parks (just an example of the layout of a level and not the place per se), urban areas etc..

[BrokenArrow]

Don't get me wrong, the US would offer great areas for battles but its not feasable to have countries invading in force. Eddie Baker pointed this out a while ago that the US Navy is too powerful for that kind of largescale invasion. Asia would still give us all of the terrain areas possible.

[[R-DEV]Eddie Baker]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]BrokenArrow

Don't get me wrong, the US would offer great areas for battles but its not feasable to have countries invading in force. Eddie Baker pointed this out a while ago that the US Navy is too powerful for that kind of largescale invasion.

Someone did say that, but I don't remember it being me.

[BrokenArrow]

Ah sorry, could've sworn it was you.

well ok let make a map where MEC and or China teams has a map in the vein of sub pens for SF, where we have to assault US ships at port, maybe a big map with Air power, and full scale warfare on islands or something then we can head towards the US inland. Think of it as sort of a new age Pearl Harbor where the enemy finds a strategic time to attack most of the US naval power at once. I know its unlikey that the US would ever be invaded in real life, but for a game it makes interesting gameplay i think. Maybe they take over south america first and push up, who knows, get creative, make scenarios that could plausibly happen instead of dismissing it right away heheh.

What about massive air drops by commercial airliners over US soil?