Feedback for v0.7 aircraft

[El_Vikingo]

Zoom? What zoom?

[BetterDeadThanRed]

Originally Posted by BetterDeadThanRed

8.) Remove rear cam from CAS aircraft and replace it with a 2/4x zoom. My reasoning for this is that the frogfoot is a "razorback" aircraft meaning the pilot cannot simply turn around and look behind him. The A-10 pilots can do this but for the sake of simplicity in balance I would leave it as a zoom function for both aircraft.

Happy?

[El_Vikingo]

I meant in real life.

[MAINERROR]

1. The twoseated machines are just trainings machines. The F15 has a very highly developed radar and comabat system. Its a BVR (beyond visual range) fighter and dont need two pilots to operate!

2. The AIM 120 rockets are rada-guided in rearlity but the AIM-120 has a extremely wide operating-range ... at BF2 map-sizes i can blow you up direct after you've took of ... thats not good for the gameplay. If you want to code radar-guided missiles you have to include also the altitude of your plane and of the target, your target can fly under radar-level and you cant lock it cause of the ground-clutter. Then another example. your plane is very high, your missiles have also a higher range ... its direct proportional. And another example. If you have a radar which is a active system, this means, that you send a signal which will be received be your systems, then the enemy can also see you, cause he can also receive the radar-signal.

That are just a few examples for you to imagine what a coding-expenditure it would be.

3. the best speeds in a dog-fight are between 350 and 450 knots per hour and its also not a very good idea to fly a permanent s-line cause in reality you bleed speed ... speed you cant regain as easy in a dog-fight.

[BetterDeadThanRed]

At vikingo, CAS aircraft have optics. In PR currently, to acquire a target visually they will only have enough time to fire and kill it then graze the trees before shooting back up into the sky. Hardly a realistic tactic. The whole point of adding a zoom is to make up for the limitations of the range that vehicles will render at.

Happier?

Originally Posted by MAINERROR

1. The twoseated machines are just trainings machines. The F15 has a very highly developed radar and comabat system. Its a BVR (beyond visual range) fighter and dont need two pilots to operate!

2. The AIM 120 rockets are rada-guided in rearlity but the AIM-120 has a extremely wide operating-range ... at BF2 map-sizes i can blow you up direct after you've took of ... thats not good for the gameplay. If you want to code radar-guided missiles you have to include also the altitude of your plane and of the target, your target can fly under radar-level and you cant lock it cause of the ground-clutter. Then another example. your plane is very high, your missiles have also a higher range ... its direct proportional. And another example. If you have a radar which is a active system, this means, that you send a signal which will be received be your systems, then the enemy can also see you, cause he can also receive the radar-signal.

That are just a few examples for you to imagine what a coding-expenditure it would be.

3. the best speeds in a dog-fight are between 350 and 450 knots per hour and its also not a very good idea to fly a permanent s-line cause in reality you bleed speed ... speed you cant regain as easy in a dog-fight.

On your first count, you sir could not be more wrong as I was talking about ground attack aircraft, not fighters. FOR GOD SAKE PEOPLE READ!

F-15E

That is not a trainer, F-15 strike eagles are two seat and fully combat capable.

Su-34

Note the side by side cockpit.

Su-30


Gr.4


Your point is no more! It has ceased to be.

Number 2 is completely irrelevant to the issue as it is way beyond the capabilities of BF2. Project reality is to as closely as possible replicate combat within their given limitations of the engine.

I honestly have no idea what 3 has to do with my points.

[El_Vikingo]

Maybe PR took out the 2 seatrer planes for a reason?

[BetterDeadThanRed]

Considering how the IDS was listed in the wiki as being "in the works" I thought I had some ground to stand on. And cmon, what is the RAF going to consist of without the IDS? The Harrier is hardly a worthy adversary for a monster like the frogfoot.

Anything else before we stagnate on the two seater jets?

[El_Vikingo]

Does the US Army or marine use any double seater aircraft?

[BetterDeadThanRed]

F-18 E/F is used by both the Navy and the Marines to my knowledge.


When the US Army needs an airstrike, they call the air force.

Edit: Perhaps this thread should be moved to the .6 feedback subforum. Wasn't really thinking when I forgot about that.

[El_Vikingo]

F-18 E or F-18 F? They are two different versions.