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Old 06-16-2007, 11:56 AM   #11
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would be cool = nonoonono


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Old 06-16-2007, 12:19 PM   #12
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Doesn't BF2 single-player have a god-mode? Give that a shot.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:50 PM   #13
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Not really, just an easy mode, where bots spam hand grenades, and you can easily pick them off from a distance.


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Old 06-16-2007, 01:09 PM   #14
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Special Forces dont play a huge part in most battles, and if they do they are most of the time just a force on the side that goes around behind enemy lines, and are not with the main force.
I am sorry. How is that not a huge part in battle?

If this isn't a huge part of battle, lets remove penetration into enemy lines. We'll all line up like they did in the civil war era and then we could have loads of fun with that.

Ohh wait, they had SF type units back then.



The idea of SF's is not nec to directly kill the enemy, but take something away from them. That could then lead to their death.

For example, they are outnumbered and surrounded, but cant retreat because SF's blew their evacuation point up aka a bridge.

The SAS could play a big role in this game that they would play in the military.

Heres a no brainer.... Destroying key AA pieces.

After all we are talking about the Special Air Service. This is what these boys were put on this planet for no? Aiding in the RAF.
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:35 PM   #15
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blah...another SAS...use search

*edit...SAS is too small 2 search..
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:54 PM   #16
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Haha burned!

This kinda thing would be nice if we all close our eyes and imagine PR as a well polished independent title with huge single player campaigns... *sigh*
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Old 06-16-2007, 02:05 PM   #17
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I am sorry. How is that not a huge part in battle?

If this isn't a huge part of battle, lets remove penetration into enemy lines. We'll all line up like they did in the civil war era and then we could have loads of fun with that.

Ohh wait, they had SF type units back then.



The idea of SF's is not nec to directly kill the enemy, but take something away from them. That could then lead to their death.

For example, they are outnumbered and surrounded, but cant retreat because SF's blew their evacuation point up aka a bridge.

The SAS could play a big role in this game that they would play in the military.

Heres a no brainer.... Destroying key AA pieces.

After all we are talking about the Special Air Service. This is what these boys were put on this planet for no? Aiding in the RAF.
Take a rifleman and an engineer, and drop behind enemy lines... BAM! - instant special force.

They're not special forces because they have cool guns, but because they perform special missions. If you include special forces classes in the game, you have no guarantee that players choosing them will go pick them and run off to the frontlines with the everyone else... Just look at how specops get used right now - people just use them for L33T PWNING on the frontline. That's the point. Special forces operate forward of the FEBA, and do not intermix with the rest of the grunts.


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Old 06-16-2007, 03:30 PM   #18
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I'm not against using the BF:SF SAS and SEAL outfits for an extraction game, so long as the correct weapons are used.


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Old 06-16-2007, 03:51 PM   #19
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proper modelling of an SF unit as a full blown faction would require at least 2 things:
1. objective mode
2. ability to have a forced unbalance of team #s

I am not aware of any way to do #2 and, as a result, it pretty much hobbles the idea to the extent that it would just be "uber leet guys with cool stuff" versus "uber leet guys with cool stuff". Or way too many "uber leet guys with cool stuff" versus far too few "not so leet guys with crappy stuff" for it to be realistic or entertaining.

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Old 06-16-2007, 03:58 PM   #20
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Well said. I supose this idea could be put on ice until a way around that is discovered.


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