Muzzle flash, it's silly - Page 2

TerribleOne · 07-17-2005, 01:45 PM

Found a tipic on another forum that should answer all your questions regarding flamethrowers.

http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x...24/m/607105625

Sh0rtbUs · 07-17-2005, 02:25 PM

I've seen LMG's let off muzzle flashes, but it was pitch black in a forest...

Flash Supressors are common on every weapon these days, and whats said has been true. Weapons dont spit out flame...

Medicoris · 07-18-2005, 04:12 AM

Yeah, it really all depends on the weapon and ammunition type. I've shot my Bushmaster M4A3 at night quite often. It already had a flash supressor intergrated, but even with the flash supressor it can be fairly well seen. However, in the day it's nearly impossible to be seen unless be shot from an unlit area.

Heh, someone suggested to build your own flame thrower on those forums. It's pretty fun to do...but uh...don't try it at home kids!

waffenbaum · 07-18-2005, 05:03 AM

How about shotguns? They seem to have muzzle flash too, but from what I've seen in real life, there's hardly to be seen.

Along with the fact that most weapons sounds like they were suped-up for the game, when in reality they are a lot less noisy and loud.

Scoggs117 · 07-18-2005, 07:43 AM

ummm not sure by what you mean by "lless noisy and loud" last time i shot my Remington 700(civi ver of M24...actually what it is based off of) it was pretty fucking loud. and yes it really does depend on the weapon, my rifle makes little to no flash... altho i did a few modifications for shooting at night(im a match competition shooter) i have been lucky enough to go out into the arizona desert and wittness a real GM Minigun fire and THAT has a HUGE muzzleflash, more like a big gout of flame. Heck i you fill it up w/ blanks you could probably use it as a flamethrower. cameras also dont always catch muzzleflash, the fps(29.97fps) occasionally misses it, so just keep in mind, video is nothing compared to real life

TerribleOne · 07-18-2005, 11:25 AM

Ive got a vid that shows you two guns. One being a Colt 1911 .45 and the other being a Desert Eagle .50

Shows you the recoil and the flame. The DE has huge recoil and a big ass flame in slowmotion.

The 1911 has hardly any recoil and no flame just smoke in slowmotion.

Its a high fps video and the ammunition was nothing he has cooked up.

Shotgun wise im sure they do have a bit of flame?? ive seen quite a few game shooters with double barreled shotguns - under and over and side by side and they all seemed to have a bit of flame and not too much smoke - in daylight.

Figisaacnewton · 07-18-2005, 12:22 PM

there is a bit of muzzle flash in daylight, but its very much more exxagerated at night.

Medicoris · 07-18-2005, 09:21 PM

Seeing a muzzle flash in broad daylight is quite possible, it's just not easily seen. In many cases you're better off listening for the shot rather than looking for a muzzle flash.

Oh, and yes, pretty much all weapons are extremely loud. Some may weapons may even cause hearing problems. The only weapons that aren't as loud are ones using sound supressors and subsonic rounds. I always wear ear plugs when I shoot. The only weapon I shoot without ear plugs is the Beretta 92FS. Even then, after an extended period of shooting you start to get quite a bit of ringing in your ears.

Puffy · 08-06-2005, 01:37 PM

And what of tracer rounds and NVG incorporation to light /dark, shadows etc...

joemoemino · 08-14-2005, 11:15 PM

I was trap shooting with my Remington 870 last night (20 gauge) and my shotgun and the other peoples shotguns had mostly no flash even at night and it seemed sometimes when I fired I could see something like sparks...? Dunno but there is mainly just smoke. And on my M1 Garand theres only muzzle flash sometimes but everytime I used Greek ammo there was muzzle flash....

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07-17-2005, 01:45 PM	#11
TerribleOne Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK - Middlesbrough Posts: 586	Found a tipic on another forum that should answer all your questions regarding flamethrowers. http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x...24/m/607105625

07-18-2005, 04:12 AM	#13
Medicoris Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United States Posts: 48	Yeah, it really all depends on the weapon and ammunition type. I've shot my Bushmaster M4A3 at night quite often. It already had a flash supressor intergrated, but even with the flash supressor it can be fairly well seen. However, in the day it's nearly impossible to be seen unless be shot from an unlit area. Heh, someone suggested to build your own flame thrower on those forums. It's pretty fun to do...but uh...don't try it at home kids!

07-18-2005, 07:43 AM	#15
Scoggs117 Join Date: Jun 2005 United States of America Location: Las Vegas Posts: 121	ummm not sure by what you mean by "lless noisy and loud" last time i shot my Remington 700(civi ver of M24...actually what it is based off of) it was pretty fucking loud. and yes it really does depend on the weapon, my rifle makes little to no flash... altho i did a few modifications for shooting at night(im a match competition shooter) i have been lucky enough to go out into the arizona desert and wittness a real GM Minigun fire and THAT has a HUGE muzzleflash, more like a big gout of flame. Heck i you fill it up w/ blanks you could probably use it as a flamethrower. cameras also dont always catch muzzleflash, the fps(29.97fps) occasionally misses it, so just keep in mind, video is nothing compared to real life

07-18-2005, 11:25 AM	#16
TerribleOne Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK - Middlesbrough Posts: 586	Ive got a vid that shows you two guns. One being a Colt 1911 .45 and the other being a Desert Eagle .50 Shows you the recoil and the flame. The DE has huge recoil and a big ass flame in slowmotion. The 1911 has hardly any recoil and no flame just smoke in slowmotion. Its a high fps video and the ammunition was nothing he has cooked up. Shotgun wise im sure they do have a bit of flame?? ive seen quite a few game shooters with double barreled shotguns - under and over and side by side and they all seemed to have a bit of flame and not too much smoke - in daylight.

07-18-2005, 09:21 PM	#18
Medicoris Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United States Posts: 48	Seeing a muzzle flash in broad daylight is quite possible, it's just not easily seen. In many cases you're better off listening for the shot rather than looking for a muzzle flash. Oh, and yes, pretty much all weapons are extremely loud. Some may weapons may even cause hearing problems. The only weapons that aren't as loud are ones using sound supressors and subsonic rounds. I always wear ear plugs when I shoot. The only weapon I shoot without ear plugs is the Beretta 92FS. Even then, after an extended period of shooting you start to get quite a bit of ringing in your ears.

08-14-2005, 11:15 PM	#20
joemoemino Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CA, USA Posts: 35	I was trap shooting with my Remington 870 last night (20 gauge) and my shotgun and the other peoples shotguns had mostly no flash even at night and it seemed sometimes when I fired I could see something like sparks...? Dunno but there is mainly just smoke. And on my M1 Garand theres only muzzle flash sometimes but everytime I used Greek ammo there was muzzle flash....

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