AAS flag delay - Page 3

Zoddom · 07-09-2012, 01:18 PM

yeah with a new random AAS mode with invisible flags, it would be even more awesome

[R-DEV]BloodyDeed · 07-12-2012, 04:22 AM

We are always thinking about improving AAS even further so thank you for this suggestion.

I just wanna give you a heads up that we read and understood it, not that you think the PR Team ignores you.

~~Arnoldio~~ · 07-12-2012, 09:21 AM

Very good then.

Problem with all MP games is that "Game experince may change during online play." And i think PR does a pretty good job of keeping is SP-like for the most part (especially with good teams), but its not quite there yet (Insurgency is even more SP-Like and only Objective or Scenario modes would top that if they get included). Only coop games top it, but coop gets boring after a while, whilst PR has the potential to be "infinite coop with real enemies instead of bots".

However id dislike to see one gamemode dominate ove another one, so thats why i posted this as INS is getting public tests anyway.

[R-DEV]BloodyDeed · 07-12-2012, 09:41 AM

From the coding aspect it's just a bit easier to tweak insurgency with modifying the amount of caches etc in comparison to AAS which is still heavily dependable on the routes and the flags itself.

~~Arnoldio~~ · 07-12-2012, 10:18 AM

Yeah, im pretty aware of that.

There was also a lenghty discussion in the past about flags that will be in play(but are not yet) being invisible for the respective teams, so you only see your flags that youve capped and the next one that is to cap, however it contradicts my OP a bit. The main point of that was anti-rushing.

If you put flags in a RL situation, what sport has a square field? To be honest i cant tink of one. Linearity means fun and PR has enough of space that it doesnt become spammy. FH2 has a map where flags are perpendicular to both teams spawns, and that is the worst idea in the history of gaming tbh... like palying football across, not down the field. So even if the gameplay gets slowed down with my original idea it wont get linear and boring.

SGT.Ice · 07-15-2012, 09:32 PM

Suggest idea, gets buried under other posts. Someone else resuggests idea & given credit. !?!?!?! profit.

ChallengerCC · 07-16-2012, 06:36 AM

Insurgency is in my eyes totaly unbalanced its trou its a dificult one because its an asymetric war. But 90% of the maps are eather for one team or for the enemy team "unwinneble" if it is played serios not "public".

For example Karbala or Kokan if you play it as american serios you have no chance as Insurgent. But on the other hand Lashkar Valley is unwinneble as Germans if the camp hard in the i call it Bunkers, (impossible to get positions with ladders and so on).

Insurgence need a kicket loss like the other team also they only have double so mutch or something like that. Or has an Insurgent no value?

Because of that there dont exist real teamwork at insurgent side. Not even medics get effectiv used or insurgent tactics. Because if you die nothing happens you will spawn in 20 sec and will be back in action and then you get the ami.

The same for AAS and FOB?s or what is now "considered" <<< unlimited Rally Points >>>. For me will this the end of Project Reality, this will destroy every tactic and teamplay because of the ultimate low value of life.
I played PR since 0.25 i think 5 years or so. But trouly activ since the rally system was overholen like today.
So in your interest BS and PR Team, trust me: dont do it.

Go more in the other direction and make the game more tactic like your main aim is and was in the game, not for the action COD gamers. The trend is also more to realism today i think.
So limitate the FOBs to maximum 2 or make them have a certain amount of spawns, like 50 or so and then you need to resuply them or something like that.

Then u also fix with that, that the fight dont takes so long about 1 or 2 Flaggs (attakc and defend flag). So other flags are also played and combined with random spawning flags this would be a great expearience.

I hope you get my point and sorry for my language i wrote it quick.
Over and out.

[QRF] ChallengerCC

Bringerof_D · 07-17-2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT.Ice

Suggest idea, gets buried under other posts. Someone else resuggests idea & given credit. !?!?!?! profit.

does it really matter so long as it makes it into the mod?

07-09-2012, 01:18 PM	#21
Zoddom Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 996 Germany Location: Saarland	Re: AAS flag delay yeah with a new random AAS mode with invisible flags, it would be even more awesome
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07-12-2012, 04:22 AM	#22
[R-DEV]BloodyDeed PR:BF2 Lead Tester Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,461 Switzerland Location: Zurich Blog Entries: 6	Re: AAS flag delay We are always thinking about improving AAS even further so thank you for this suggestion. I just wanna give you a heads up that we read and understood it, not that you think the PR Team ignores you.
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07-12-2012, 09:21 AM	#23
~~Arnoldio~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,150 Slovenia Location: Cerkno	Re: AAS flag delay Very good then. Problem with all MP games is that "Game experince may change during online play." And i think PR does a pretty good job of keeping is SP-like for the most part (especially with good teams), but its not quite there yet (Insurgency is even more SP-Like and only Objective or Scenario modes would top that if they get included). Only coop games top it, but coop gets boring after a while, whilst PR has the potential to be "infinite coop with real enemies instead of bots". However id dislike to see one gamemode dominate ove another one, so thats why i posted this as INS is getting public tests anyway.

07-12-2012, 09:41 AM	#24
[R-DEV]BloodyDeed PR:BF2 Lead Tester Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,461 Switzerland Location: Zurich Blog Entries: 6	From the coding aspect it's just a bit easier to tweak insurgency with modifying the amount of caches etc in comparison to AAS which is still heavily dependable on the routes and the flags itself.
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07-12-2012, 10:18 AM	#25
~~Arnoldio~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,150 Slovenia Location: Cerkno	Re: AAS flag delay Yeah, im pretty aware of that. There was also a lenghty discussion in the past about flags that will be in play(but are not yet) being invisible for the respective teams, so you only see your flags that youve capped and the next one that is to cap, however it contradicts my OP a bit. The main point of that was anti-rushing. If you put flags in a RL situation, what sport has a square field? To be honest i cant tink of one. Linearity means fun and PR has enough of space that it doesnt become spammy. FH2 has a map where flags are perpendicular to both teams spawns, and that is the worst idea in the history of gaming tbh... like palying football across, not down the field. So even if the gameplay gets slowed down with my original idea it wont get linear and boring.

07-15-2012, 09:32 PM	#26
SGT.Ice Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 968 United States of America Location: Shits blowing up everywhere.	Re: AAS flag delay Suggest idea, gets buried under other posts. Someone else resuggests idea & given credit. !?!?!?! profit.
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07-16-2012, 06:36 AM	#27
ChallengerCC Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 248 Germany Location: Berlin	Re: AAS flag delay Insurgency is in my eyes totaly unbalanced its trou its a dificult one because its an asymetric war. But 90% of the maps are eather for one team or for the enemy team "unwinneble" if it is played serios not "public". For example Karbala or Kokan if you play it as american serios you have no chance as Insurgent. But on the other hand Lashkar Valley is unwinneble as Germans if the camp hard in the i call it Bunkers, (impossible to get positions with ladders and so on). Insurgence need a kicket loss like the other team also they only have double so mutch or something like that. Or has an Insurgent no value? Because of that there dont exist real teamwork at insurgent side. Not even medics get effectiv used or insurgent tactics. Because if you die nothing happens you will spawn in 20 sec and will be back in action and then you get the ami. The same for AAS and FOB?s or what is now "considered" <<< unlimited Rally Points >>>. For me will this the end of Project Reality, this will destroy every tactic and teamplay because of the ultimate low value of life. I played PR since 0.25 i think 5 years or so. But trouly activ since the rally system was overholen like today. So in your interest BS and PR Team, trust me: dont do it. Go more in the other direction and make the game more tactic like your main aim is and was in the game, not for the action COD gamers. The trend is also more to realism today i think. So limitate the FOBs to maximum 2 or make them have a certain amount of spawns, like 50 or so and then you need to resuply them or something like that. Then u also fix with that, that the fight dont takes so long about 1 or 2 Flaggs (attakc and defend flag). So other flags are also played and combined with random spawning flags this would be a great expearience. I hope you get my point and sorry for my language i wrote it quick. Over and out. [QRF] ChallengerCC
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