[Concept] More Technicals

[fabioxxxx]

Soon my dog of war... Soon
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transport technical for the win.

[[R-COM]rushn]

Originally Posted by 40mmrain

So, in conclusion of this thread.

The ZPU techi should be added to maps where the insurgents lose incredibly frequently to quell this.
The ZPU techi should be added to maps where the insurgents win and lose at an equal ratio, however BLUFOR's cas should be upgraded subsequently, or the techi should not be added at all.

Any questions?

well this discussion was suppose to be about adding more variety of technicals ut turned into ZPU techie argument

[40mmrain]

Originally Posted by [R-COM]rushn

well this discussion was suppose to be about adding more variety of technicals ut turned into ZPU techie argument

well the only two were rocket artillery, and ZPU. Rocket artillery isnt worth discussing, it's hard to see it as OP, and it's decently realistic. Adding it would simply be more content, with no chance of obfuscating balance, which can only be seen as good.

[HMARS]

I think we're done here.

[PricelineNegotiator]

Make sure you understand which ZPU cannon you are talking about. There are different calibers for the ZPU's. I believe the ZPU which is in game would be called a "ZPU-14.5-4", denoting a ZPU with 4 14.5mm barrels. That ZPU is called the ZPU-4. There are also two other emplacements in question when you're talking about - the ZPU-23-2 and the ZSU-23-4. Those both fire the 23mm round, but are fixed in either 2 or 4 barrel configurations. However, the ZSU-23-4 is a cannon mounted within the Shilka, which is self-propelled.

ZPU-4: 14.5mm cannon with 4 barrels "stationary"
ZPU-23-2: 23mm cannon with 2 barrels "stationary"
ZSU-23-4: 23mm cannon with 4 barrels, which is self-propelled

Just pointing out that they are NOT the same caliber and definitely do not weigh the same, so please don't confuse the ZPU-23-2 as a 14.5mm cannon. I think the DEVs know, but when people are arguing about this stuff, I can't tell what their reasoning is based off of.

Limiting the amount of ammunition and also magazine size would be a good way to ensure proper use/balance of however this is mounted.

[godfather_596]

doesn't the hydra backblast kill operator? in any case zu23 technical is amazing all insurgents use it it'll be great for those pesky kiowas

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by godfather_596

doesn't the hydra backblast kill operator?

They tend to either sit inside the vehicle, in front/under the launcher, or from a control wire, firing it from a distance.

[Wo0Do0]

My main concern is asset balance, not whether PR is staying consistent to real life armaments.

Currently the Insurgents have the SPG-9 techie, which is the prized "hard-counter" to APCs. It is balanced because there is only one of them, sometimes that results in a lot of flame when it ends up in the wrong hands, but I can't see a way to fix that currently.

We need a Anti-Air hard-counter equivalent. The Strela and .50 cal techie aren't effectively fulfilling that role at the moment. Similar to the SPG-9 techie. There will only be one of them, if it is used by the right group of people. You can have a very dynamic air to ground counter cycle.

[Hunt3r]

Just slap a 14.5mm ZPU to a technical, BTRs can trash helos on Muttrah, an extra 3 barrels firing should kill them even faster.

[[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude]

It sure would be nice to see a ZPU 1 or 2 on the back of a flatbed. Would give the unconvntional forces a fighting chance against airpower.


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