Helicopter and Jet flying, Joystick or Mouse..

[M_Striker]

I use mouse for both. Sort of on and off. I use both joystick and mouse/keyboard for jets, but I just cannot bring myself to fly helicopters with a joystick. I find it incredibly difficult and confusing.

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Nickbond592

yes its essential to have a joystick to fly the jets, you cant fly properly and your manouveraility is vastly hampered if your using a mouse to fly a jet in PR

I don't know about this, using mouse works for me, also when using a mouse you have better control over your aiming as you can adjust your gunsights better.

[CHUGGA-CHUGGA]

Originally Posted by Havoc134

I find that using amouse is hard for jets because its almost impossible to make tight turns. You dont have that problem with a mouse.

Think he means

Originally Posted by Havoc134

I find that using amouse is hard for jets because its almost impossible to make tight turns. You dont have that problem with a Joystick.

[Cpl.Small]

Joystick for jets, mouse and keyboard for choppers, it's hard to get 0% throttle on choppers with my joystick throttle without going into reverse thrust, so much easier to use keyboard, i find.

[LudacrisKill]

Keyboard-keyboard for both for me as the reactions are quicker. I am the only pilot ive seen that can do it though .

[Alex6714]

Doesn´t Blaat use only keyboard also?

[Punkbuster]

If I am flying a jet I will use a joystick, When i bought my Logitech Extreme 3D PRO 3XD joystick I tried to fly a jet with it and it was realy nice and realy easy but when I tried to fly a chopper with it, it was realy realy hard I had problems taking of properely and then I crashed and then Instantly I plugged my joystick out and used the mouse again and I wa happy with the mouse.
Of course I still use the joystick but for jets only!

[Anguin]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Nickbond592

but with a mouse and keyboard you can have 100% throttle followed by 0% throttle instantly

This is true, however i thought pr actually slowed down the response from the engine so that this wasnt actually possible? sure the control input is 100 - 0, but does the engine do this as well?

[M.Warren]

I use a Joystick (right hand), Throttle (left hand) and Rudder Pedals (feet) while flying an aircraft or helicopter. Although I must admit that helicopters will most likely take the greatest amount of time to get used to. The controls and flight characteristics offered through the BF2 engine is very inaccurate in the operation of helicopters.

This is partly because of how the "torque" indicator is wrong as it shows 1% torque in almost a perfect hover. In actuality, it should be showing 48-49% torque instead (obviously a helicopter would fall out of the air with 1% torque) which is just a hair slightly less than a perfect hover as it is gradually descending... Which is the way it appears in game.

Besides, it's hellish to try and use dumbfire rockets on a helicopter without an adequate combination of throttle and collective controls. Every time you pitch down to aim at your target, the helicopter speeds up faster and faster completely overshooting the target you intended to fire at anyways. The list of issues goes on and on for helicopters. They're not as fine tuned as they need to be but that's the nature of their operation in BF2. Pilots are forced to make due with what they have as there is no stabilization features for gunners either.

I heard BF2 referred to something like this once: "Jack of all trades, master of none."

Anyways... I still use some of my controls for vehicles as well. It's along the lines of: Mouse (right hand), Throttle (left hand) and Rudder Pedals (feet) for steering. It works rather well actually. It takes some time getting used to, but you must have the mouse available to use as it's necessary to look around while you're driving. The joystick is not going to cut it in the land vehicle category.

[[R-CON]Tomato-Rifle]

I use the keybaord only when flying anything, so i cant help you here.

[CHUGGA-CHUGGA]

Hay,

Thanks guys.

M. Warren. Yeh thats pretty much my setup, throttle left, js right. works well, flying a helicopter came naturally for me with the JS in pr. mainly because i didn't use anything else besides it to start off.

I heard BF2 referred to something like this once: "Jack of all trades, master of none."

Love that quote. really true, thats why i preffer transport helo than attack, attack choppers get shotdown easy and its harder to actually hit something, like you said with the pitch thing.