[Request] US v. Russia armour map

[[R-DEV]GeZe]

Hello,
I would like to see if anyone (who is good at mapping) would be interested in creating a Russia v. US armour map.

Setting:
Eastern Europe

Size:
1024x2

Vehicles:
APCs
Tanks
AAV
Attack Helis

[Viper5]

Operation Greasy Mullet would make a great Russia v. US map IMO in addition to this

[BetterDeadThanRed]

Oooh! Oooh! Pick me! Pick me!

Well, here is my TG map idea submission, I just can't get my map editor to work so I figured I would let somebody else give it a shot if they would like. I was originally planning to update my post in the map thread, but I have too many reference photos so here goes:

Map title: The Fulda Gap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulda_Gap

Armies: 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment (0.7+ US Army) vs. Russian Armored Division (0.7+)

Game type: AASv2, Russians start with bleed and must capture a series of objectives to stop the bleed. US should not be able to recapture lost territory.

Map Layout:

I had to resize the map, so you can take a look at it for yourself at these coordinates.


I took this picture out of the actual Fulda Gap region. Google Earth has a high res 3d map of the area if you check it out for yourself.


I think this may be able to be scaled down to a 2km x 2km map. (Think Al Basrah size)

Pink:
1) Neutral field flag for the Russians to have a freebie
2) Fortified Checkpoint, starts in the hands of the US
3) West Town
4) Quarry Flag
5) South Hamlet
6) East Town
7) Farm House

Orange:
1) Red squares indicate two observation towers that act as initial spawn points for US infantry
2) Infantry footpath as a secondary entrance to Quarry
3) Close that area off to be only an infantry footpath, I want the US Armor to take the long route to reinforce checkpoint flag
4) Steep hill with a footpath that offers the infantry a way to bypass the southern armor bottleneck
5) Secondary checkpoint, not a flag, serves as an armor bottleneck

Basic Plan: Russians start out in a field with maybe a dozen armored units, (It's a lot, I know, but this is supposed to be cold war style invasion feel) I was thinking maybe 8 T-80s, 2 ATGM equipped T-90s (w/ flares if possible to simulate Shtora system) and 2 BMP-3s. There would be assorted fast movers as well at the insertion point for the infantry players. To prevent stalemating and keep the Russians advancing, I would suggest giving the Russians some artillery a la Hamyong style, although I would much prefer it to be player controlled, there is nothing like this in PR thus far.

Americans spawn in at the outposts in the hills surrounding the checkpoint flag. I was thinking a javelin pickup kit may work well here, but that may be kind of overpowered for the Americans. The basic idea here is that the teammates that spawned back at the US insertion point (4 M1A2s, 2 IFVs, a TOW humvee or two but no other fast movers) would then drive the armor to assist the infantry which are facing the armor on their own at this point. There would need to be a long delay for the armor to reach the defending infantry so a nice asymmetrical battle would take place. The infantry defending the checkpoint flag would need a lot of cover as they are going up against a lot of armor, but not so much that the flag is uncapturable. The flag should be designed to be lost every round so the armored battle can be taken to the fields in the south.

The first town should have plenty of enterable buildings for urban combat so the infantry can be fighting inside while the armored battle is taking place in the farmland surrounding. IFVs would be forced inside the town for protection from the armor and would then assist the infantry. Again, this flag should not be easy for the Americans to hold indefinitely as you want the map to be in constant motion. If the Russians hold this flag, the bleed should stop.

The Quarry flag would be the bleed swinging flag and would be off limits to armor. There would need to be several entrances for infantry and maybe a path navigable for jeeps but nothing bigger. A deep depression surrounded by high walls with a tree line would make for some interesting infantry combat to break from the armored engagement this map would be all about.

The Hamlet flag would basically just be a row of enterable houses along a road that would be accessible to both infantry and armor. Any fight here should be over quickly so that a bottleneck could be set up at the Blue 5 checkpoint. The armor should be stalemated here while infantry try to sneak around through the northern corridors in the hills. From there they would move to secure the last town, time permitting.

The second town flag (I think it would be best if its made as just another small hamlet) should be difficult to be captured so the US doesn't end up getting base raped and completely crushed. This would happen inevitably and the last flag they would have would be a small farmhouse to the north.


Reference Photos: Like I mentioned before, you can have a look for yourself at the coordinates given, but I will post some close up photos for you anyways.

Outpost/Checkpoint area with a closer view of the farms.


First town and surrounding countryside.


Quarry and surrounding forest. You can see a small road leading through the forest to the east.


Southern Hamlet CP. Sums it up right there.


Second town. Honestly, this town is far too big and would need to be scaled down a lot, possibly to the order of the hamlet seen above.


Well guys, thanks for your time if you read all that, or if you just skipped down here to read this sentence. If anybody is willing to take up this undertaking, I'll make sure to support you every step of the way any way I can.

Made this for the TG forums a little while ago. Hope you like it.

[[R-DEV]GeZe]

That looks like a good idea, though, wouldn't the Russians be in the East and the US in the West?

[BetterDeadThanRed]

If you look at the terrain, it kind of curves around in crazy ways so its not entirely out of the realm of possibility, but I don't see why one couldn't invert the map. I don't think the google earth gods will come down and smite the mapper for doing that.

[[R-MOD]KP]

That village in photo number 3 from the top would make an awesome infantry map, especially with those fields around it.

[Surround]

Sounds really cool map

We need someone to model the mcdonalds there

[$kelet0r]

Reminds me of operation harvest from the BF2 Armored Fury Expansion - which was an absolutely fantastic combined arms map, the only vanilla map I'd love to see in PR.

[BetterDeadThanRed]

Originally Posted by KP

That village in photo number 3 from the top would make an awesome infantry map, especially with those fields around it.

I was thinking that could be the 16 player version.

[KomradePedrovsk]

Originally Posted by BetterDeadThanRed

If you look at the terrain, it kind of curves around in crazy ways so its not entirely out of the realm of possibility, but I don't see why one couldn't invert the map. I don't think the google earth gods will come down and smite the mapper for doing that.

Why even invert the map. Just place Americans at West and Russians at East. Looks like a nice setting by the way.