[Vehicle] Polish Mig 29 Reskin... [WIP]

[Sights]

Yeah, that's a really nice skin, man.

[Aquiller]

Originally Posted by 162eRI

Yes, with EU money, they buy American F16. Not I mind because it's American, when you can take the cheaper/better material that's the good choice... But this European money was more feet to buy European stuff and we know American push the issue. It was the first vocation for this economic European help to buy European... I remember EU governments and Europeans aircraft factories weren't quiet happy with that ><'

Nope, money for F-16 came completely from Polish sources (and US credit) and it didnt contain any EU donations (afaik). Its quite obvious because decision was made before Polish accession to EU.

[162eRI]

Indeed, true, before UE accession, secretely before, announce just before or during accession (didn't quit remember) and payed after with EU money... => The American (and especially the American Ambassady at Varsaw) push the matter with secret negotiations. But its UE money, partially, who pay those F16, for sure. I remember well the noise this affair did!

I'm glad because I heard today that Polish Air Force isn't satisfied by their F16. Indeed, to push the Polish to buy, the F16 was really cheap and "not that good" (I simplify)...

Well, what's done is done!

[Aquiller]

There are F-16s in Belgium and Denmark also.

( F-16 Fighting Falcon )

[162eRI]

Of course! As I said, it's not the fact to buy American good/cheap F16, but the way it was made, secretely when European aircrafts companies were supposed to have their words and how it was payed, in part with EU money (as we say, "send back the elevator"). Where was the invitation to tender...
What's done is done! Every country have their affairs!

[Aquiller]

I still dont get it - why do you think it was made secretly? There was a tender between Lockheed Martin, Dassault Aviation and Gripen International.

Polish fighter tender in final stage: Lockheed Martin's F-16 appears to have the inside track on capturing the $4-billion program. (EC Monitor).

Article from:
Journal of Electronic Defense
Article date:
December 1, 2002
Author:
Fiszer, Michal ; Gruszczynski, Jerzy ; Rivers, Brendan P.

On November 12, the final offers for a new multi-role fighter were submitted to the Polish government by Lockheed Martin (Ft. Worth, TX); Dassault Aviation (Paris, France); and Gripen International, a joint venture of BAE Systems (Farnborough, UK) and Saab AG (Stockholm, Sweden). According to all the contenders, the three offered aircraft -- the F-16C/D Advanced Block 52, the Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2, and the Gripen -- fully meet Polish requirements, but sources indicate that Lockheed Martin's F-16 is likely to be selected. This major decision is to be made at the end of this month.

According to a highly placed government source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Lockheed ...

( Polish fighter tender in final stage: Lockheed Martin's F-16 appears to have the inside track on capturing the $4-billion program. (EC Monitor). | Article from Journal of Electronic Defense | HighBeam Research )


Anyway, its an offtopic and lets cut it here.

[simeon5541]

Who will they fight with MiG ?

[Stealthgato]

Lookin' good.

[gongchandangqusi]

I think F16 Block52+ is better

[simeon5541]

Originally Posted by gongchandangqusi

I think F16 Block52+ is better

I think they should mix them both.
And also if they are looking for bomber they can ask
Clive William for his model of Su-22 Fitter.