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Old 07-07-2007, 05:51 AM   #11
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Ummmm you forget one the most important facets of the H-AT.
The tone lock.
If you lock up a tank from a helo, he is freaking out trying to find the H=At gunner on a horizon and is not paying attention to the ground.
Ergo, cognito ....BOOM!
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:27 AM   #12
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Don't you mean cogito? And that actually is a good trick to make them freak out
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:47 AM   #13
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We did it on OGT in the tournament.... mobile arty!
I`ve seen that...

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Old 07-07-2007, 01:39 PM   #14
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I've done it a few times - from the LB is best, as you're safe from hostile SAMs, if not AAA.

You need a good pilot and voice coms- trick is to fly really nice and high so your'e above coax/mounted MG aimpoint, and then get the pilot to level off and hover briefly while you let loose.

As soon as you've fired, start moving off again and let the pilot know when you're reloaded. Two shots then RTB for resupplies - it works well.

For those who say it's probably never been done IRL, I put it to you that no-where is humankind as ingenious and willing to innovate as in warfare. Sure, it's a gamey, low-down tactic and one that'll probably make you deeply unpopular. It's also a fairly intensive used of resources- a chopper and HAT (or even HAT and LAT together) is a lot to devote to aerial tank-busting- but hell, it's rarely used, hardly a massive problem on the servers and immensely good fun!


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Old 07-07-2007, 02:01 PM   #15
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The Merlin works just as well. The troops aren't exposed to AAA fire as much and the helicopter is very maneuverable. The Merlin can also take about 3 RPG hits. Reminds me of an excellent time on Basrah when I was hit by an RPG, saw him, flew over to him and hovered by him. Tsk.


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Old 07-07-2007, 02:24 PM   #16
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Something fun we did while waiting for everyone to get to practice (or filming, forgot which) in 0.5 Basrah was to have a spec ops on the side of a chopper and have a Humvee driver around randomly inside the airport, get low enough with the LB, drop a slam in the Humvee's flat bed and fly away. Sort of the same idea and lots of fun if you're with friends in a non-pub or empty server.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:27 PM   #17
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Heh, done that too Had the Merlin fly around and then when someone spotted an ammo cache, lower the chopper, chuck a SLAM or two on it. Damn I love creativity. Although I can't see many spec-ops tossing out a few explosive devices from helicopters in Iraq


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Old 07-07-2007, 04:06 PM   #18
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Probably because they're too busy strapping each other to Cobras and Apaches

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Old 07-07-2007, 05:03 PM   #19
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Hehehe, I'm pretty sure this is specifically stated as against TG rules.

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We did it on OGT in the tournament.... mobile arty!
And I'm also pretty sure that *that* was against tourney rules for that map...

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Old 07-07-2007, 09:32 PM   #20
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Frankly, I can't see why anyone - Tourny, Pub server or Clan server - should see the need to impose bogus rules like that.

If someone shoots at you, you shoot back.
If someone shoots a tank at you, you either get in your own tank or grab the HAT.
If someone shoots a jet at you, you either get in a jet or grab the AAV or AA kit.

So why is it when people are confronted with new and different tactics, they don't come up with a decent solution?

I mean, if there's a Merlin with two HAT and some Spec Ops buzzing around killing Insurgency vehicles and dropping SLAMS onto ammo caches, it seems to be that the logical response is as follows:

1. Station an AA trooper on a high rooftop with a source of ammo nearby
2. Station Tacticals in a loose formation in the surrounding area
3. Wait for the Merlin to fly overhead and then wrack up a whole bunch of kills for 5 minutes co-ordinated work.

Likewise with Littlebirds/Other small Helos manned with HAT/LAT kits - all it takes is a few well-placed machineguns and you've got them bang to rights.

It's the same mentality you see on Kashan- players moaning "This map sucks with Jets/Choppers (delete as inappropriate) whilst their teams AA kits are still safely with the Quartermaster and both Anti-Air vehicles are parked back at main base.

*Every* tactic in the game you can think of, there's a decent counter for. If the other side is loading 6 guys into a transport chopper and using it as a gunship, all power to 'em! It just proves the other side aren't working together as a team- because with a little work and some co-ordination, they'd have the buggers down within 10 minutes. Kill the chopper and its crew two or three times, they'll stop doing it.


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