Of course global warming doesn't exist.

[BlakeJr]

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

Yay the ice is melting. Now prove its our fault.

Prove that it is not.

It is very true that temperatures and climate has changed through the history of our planet. It is also true that volcanos are to be put in the "blameblender".

However... For the past 200 - 300 years mankind has been hard at work burning everything from cowbells to other humans in our strive to become... what?
Whatever, anyways, the burning of fossil fuel or even wood is just the tip of the iceberg of human intervention.
We have invented all sorts of chemicals that help breaking down the ozonelayer which in turn allows more heat from the sun to reach the surface of the earth and so on.

To claim that mankind has NOT had ANY impact on our climate is absurd.
Ofcourse mankind is guilty. How can we NOT be guilty considering the huge amounts of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, CFC gasses, dioxins, you name it, that we have put out into the atmosphere without so much as blinking since the beginning of the industrial revolution in the 1700:s?

That the climate has always fluctuated and has had warmer and colder periods is not proof that we have had nothing to do with the current fluctuation or what you want to call it.
That the climate will change and IS changing is an undeniable fact.
One interresting question is, What will the world look like in 40 - 50 years?


Oh, and, no. I doubt it will come like in The Day after Tomorrow.
Whitley Strieber is a lot of things and "alarmist" is one of those things that come to mind.
Read "The Coming Global Superstorm" by said author if you want to know what I mean.
Fig, Yes, Whitley DO wear a tinfoil hat.

[longhairedhippy]

It's not only the burnig of fossil fuels, but the decimation of the rain forests...the Earth's CO2 filters. Now istead of using CO2 and turnig it into oxygen, heavily forested rain forests are dieing=rotting=creating even more CO2.
Good times.

[Griffon2-6]

Global warming has happened many times prehistorically too. I mean, when the dinosaurs were around, there were no ice caps on Earth. The CO2 level on Earth is periodic. What creates CO2? Animals. What are we? Animals. Right now, animals dominate the world. Once they create enough carbon dioxide, the Earth's temperature rises, and they wipe themselves out.

Successively, plants will dominate in the suitable warm climate, using up the carbon dioxide and changing it into oxygen, creating an ice age, making Earth's atmosphere suitable for animal life again. Herbivores devour plants, and evolution starts all over again to create new carnivores. The cycle starts again. Now, humans only developed during an ice age, and onward. This cycle has to peak some time. We are still no where near the peak of this cycle, but we are getting closer.

Of course, this is all scientific theory, but hey, which argument isn't?

[Figisaacnewton]

The claim is being made that global warming is caused by humans. I don't see how. Can you find me an actual scientific report (not a news report about a scientific report) that actually proves that human activity A is responsible for temperature rising B?

My point is... its unproven. Its debatable, and being debated.

The other thing is, even if you can prove that human activities have warmed the temperature of the earth, you have to prove that every other activity that has caused temperature fluxs in the past has had less of an effect than human activities.

Also, nobody knows what will happen if the temperature were to rise say 5 degrees. Our weather system is too complicated and unpredictable. We just don't know. If we did, weather forecasts would never be wrong.

[longhairedhippy]

Don't argue, or this thread will be locked. Your reply is asking for an argument.

Mods here are more trigger happy than the PS2 boards.

[Animalmother]

Originally Posted by dunkellic

and by the way, human made global warming has already been proved (and is widely accept except in some parts of the usa)

Err no, there would not be debate if such a thing was impossibly proved. "Rising C02 levels" is not proof. I remain skeptical, which we should all be.

[dunkellic]

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

The claim is being made that global warming is caused by humans. I don't see how. Can you find me an actual scientific report (not a news report about a scientific report) that actually proves that human activity A is responsible for temperature rising B?

My point is... its unproven. Its debatable, and being debated.

The other thing is, even if you can prove that human activities have warmed the temperature of the earth, you have to prove that every other activity that has caused temperature fluxs in the past has had less of an effect than human activities.

Also, nobody knows what will happen if the temperature were to rise say 5 degrees. Our weather system is too complicated and unpredictable. We just don't know. If we did, weather forecasts would never be wrong.

it has been proven many times, ask scientist all around the world, look into serious newspapers, your point that it is unproven, is simply wrong.
here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globale_Erw%C3%A4rmung
i doubt that you can read it, but it has the evidence you want