Hammer Time :D

[00SoldierofFortune00]

Originally Posted by Makhno

I already wasted to much time on you - you are a right-wing semi-fascist moron and not all the common sense in the world will ever change that! ...so, only this last thing



For that last 5 years I have been hearing september 11th. as an excuse for wars, fascist anti-terror laws, killings of civilians - all the bullshit in the world has been justified by september 11th. Find another excuse soon - it's begining to bore me!!!

Please STFU you dumbass. You really start to sound ignorant now. So you are basically saying that the war in Afganistan was a mistake and an excuse to just blow shit up? Get your facts straight, Afganistan was a justified war and they got what they deserved. Iraq is a different story, but you are so dumb that you obviously didn't seperate it from the Afganistan war which shows you are fed that propaganda about all Americans trying to take over the world what not. Not all Americans are for Iraq or spreading democracy.

And what the fuck is so fascist about anti-terror laws? Of course some of them like the phone tapping and patriot act do but into normal people's lives, but there are still plenty of laws out there that keep us safe. At least we are doing something right so far in terms of not getting attacked because we are taking out terror cells here.

Yea, when your country gets bombed or fucked up, who will care 5 years later really? Who really cares about Denmark? And you justify drawing a cartoon that is offensive to a culture's religion and then call it freedom of speech? It maybe so, but what if they drew a swatska or satanic symbol on Jesus or the cross or whatever religion you practice? What would you think then?

[00SoldierofFortune00]

Originally Posted by ArmedDrunk&Angry

<<Israel's military said it had warned residents of Qana to leave and said Hizbollah guerrillas bore responsibility for using the village to fire rockets at the Jewish state. Israel vowed to pursue its campaign until Hizbollah stopped.>>
When was thwe last time a terrorist gave a warning ? Only group i ever heard of that called ahead to tell you they were gonna blow stuff up was the IRA.
I know civ who have nothing to do w/ the terrorists are dying and i feel bad about that. But what is your answer ?
How would you deal w/ an agressive enemy on your borders ?
Negotiations and land give backs havn't worked.
It's very easy to sit back, safe and sound, and critizize, but I ask again-----What would you do ?

It is not like the villagers had anywhere to go really. They were poor and really didn't have any place to go, so they decided to stay and hope that they wouldn't bomb it. That is kind of like giving a warning to a bunch wheel chair mentally chalanged people and telling them to move because they are gonna spray them with water. What can they really do about that?

The blaim should be 50/50 here because it started out about 2 soldier's, but look at how many civilians Isreal has killed. Over 500, so are they saying that they can kill as many civilians as they want people they still won't equal 2 captured soldiers and 8 dead ones?

I agree that they have a right to defend themselves because everyone around them does want to kill them and blow them up, but they need to stop bombing civilian targets because they will never kill enough Hezbollah compared to civilians. This is obviously what Hezbollah wants because it is turning everyone against Isreal. It is a pretty blatant terror and gurilla war tactic that is working for them by putting their rockets right next to civilians.

I thought that Isreal would be smart enough now to know that bombing won't do sh*t for them(all these launched investigations into the "accidents" won't do jack or bring those people back). I thought they would of realized by now that they really have no choice to go into Lebinon and clear them out manuelly house by house which is what it will come down to no matter what unless they pull out. And if they pull out, the same thing will happen again because Hezbollah will just retakeover everything taken after they come out from hiden.

Unless Isreal wants everyone against them, they really have no choice but to launch a massive invasion on them and they will have to occupy Lebenon for a period or either the same thing will happen again. It is already proven that those bombs have been doing nothing positive yet.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

The IDF had some severe cutbacks in the last few years, and most of the $ went to the air force. You are right, in the end it's gonna take boots in the mud to stop hezbollah but the bombing is strategic as well. I don't think anyone believes that the airstrikes alone would solve the problem.If the they can't resupply then the IDF ground troops will have a chance to root them out.In the end, someone else is gonna have to administer the peace because they were there for 18 something years and couldn't solve the problem. don't misunderstand me, I don't think bombing the lebanese civilians is going to stop the cycle of violence. But at some point the Isreali's had to call a stop to the pinprick attacks. Is this the best way ?....not in my amatuer opinion.
But i don't know of another way either, so it's the lesser of two evils.
I don't think we should have taken the war on terror to the Iraq theater either. I think Afganistan should have been finished before we took on anything else. But as you pointed out, other than individual nutcases, no American outside the warzones has been killed by terrorists since 2001. Prior to that we lost people almost every year to some group or another. There is merit to the arguement that Iraq and Lebanon just create more jihadi's but there isn't another solution that seems to work. Hiding certainly isn't going to solve the problem.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

found it on the 3FJ site
these guys need some lessons from Monty Python
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-nipIdnU6k

and on a more serious note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGFpd...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytX-D...elated&search=

[trogdor1289]

Armed this is precisly what happens when certain people corrupt religon look at the crusades, which in my opinion started this mess. The inquisition in Spain, the Son of David, Waco ridge ectr. The problem here is religon and how much thanks to the history between them that they hate each other and also how uneducted and quite frankly brainwashed the average hezbollah member or family in the south or north west is.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

I think the religous folk bear much of the blame for the worlds suffering but that said it was humans who twisted various religous texts to benefit their own needs. No religion is not a good thing but too much and we have the world we live in now. A happy medium would be nice but as long the power structure relies on you hating me for reading a different book we are gonna keep going around and around.

did you say models ?
When i get my place restructured I'm gonna start building a Bradley model I;ve had since my buddy went over there. I'd like to see some PR inspired dioramas.