Is The Large Hadron Collider Being Sabotaged from the Future?

[supahpingi]

Originally Posted by Salah ad Din

that is the paradoxon you have with time travels: they CAN go back in time to prevent the earth from being destroyed, BECAUSE they went back in time to prevent the earth from being destroyed.

i am confus....

[Teek]

Originally Posted by OiSkout

This is no way near as awesome of a mind fluff that Heinlein's short story was about that guy who travels through time and bangs himself giving birth to himself.

But for all we know, this could be that alternate dimension sort of stuff and we're in the multiverse!

this story?

Grandfather Paradox :

Time travel is impossible as exemplified by the famous grandfather paradox. Imagine you build a time machine. It is possible for you to travel back in time, meet your grandfather before he produces any children (i.e. your father/mother) and kill him. Thus, you would not have been born and the time machine would not have been built, a paradox.

Perhaps the craziest of the time travel paradoxes was cooked up by Robert Heinlein in his classic short story "All You Zombies."

A baby girl is mysteriously dropped off at an orphanage in Cleveland in 1945. "Jane" grows up lonely and dejected, not knowing who her parents are, until one day in 1963 she is strangely attracted to a drifter. She falls in love with him. But just when things are finally looking up for Jane, a series of disasters strike. First, she becomes pregnant by the drifter, who then disappears. Second, during the complicated delivery, doctors find that Jane has both sets of sex organs, and to save her life, they are forced to surgically convert "her" to a "him." Finally, a mysterious stranger kidnaps her baby from the delivery room.

Reeling from these disasters, rejected by society, scorned by fate, "he" becomes a drunkard and drifter. Not only has Jane lost her parents and her lover, but he has lost his only child as well. Years later, in 1970, he stumbles into a lonely bar, called Pop's Place, and spills out his pathetic story to an elderly bartender. The sympathetic bartender offers the drifter the chance to avenge the stranger who left her pregnant and abandoned, on the condition that he join the "time travelers corps." Both of them enter a time machine, and the bartender drops off the drifter in 1963. The drifter is strangely attracted to a young orphan woman, who subsequently becomes pregnant.

The bartender then goes forward 9 months, kidnaps the baby girl from the hospital, and drops off the baby in an orphanage back in 1945. Then the bartender drops off the thoroughly confused drifter in 1985, to enlist in the time travelers corps. The drifter eventually gets his life together, becomes a respected and elderly member of the time travelers corps, and then disguises himself as a bartender and has his most difficult mission: a date with destiny, meeting a certain drifter at Pop's Place in 1970.

The question is: Who is Jane's mother, father, grandfather, grand mother, son, daughter, granddaughter, and grandson? The girl, the drifter, and the bartender, of course, are all the same person. These paradoxes can made your head spin, especially if you try to untangle Jane's twisted parentage. If we drawJane's family tree, we find that all the branches are curled inward back on themselves, as in a circle. We come to the astonishing conclusion that she is her own mother and father! She is an entire family tree unto herself.

[driver-ch-driver]

Originally Posted by Teek

this story?

That story is 'wow' and 'eww' at the same time...

[CodeRedFox]

Yeh for offtopic rules

[[R-MOD]Saobh]

Now aren't you glad I switched to the Off-topic area

[CodeRedFox]

NO!!!...your still wrong, the fraking MOD on this site are nazis


As much as time travel is seen as sci-fi its being studied/questioned which tells you something.

[Expendable Grunt]

I don't believe time exists as an entity that can be manipulated.

M>

[Hoboknighter]

According to some theorys a positron is actually an electron traveling back in time :O or vice versa. So technically we might be going back in time while anti-matter goes forward.

[CodeRedFox]

Blind leading the blind

A few scientists don't agree As this article explains.

[Solid Knight]

By the way, they should have named it the "Hardon Collider".