America: The World's Designated Driver

[Crawley]

Ok, ill restate myself

Half of America is Liberal, thats where the almost all of the idiots come from. That and the media has a unbelievable effect on peoples minds.

[Figisaacnewton]

According to the above graph... Icleland is as wasteful and Ireland is almost as wasteful as America... and their populations that are fractions of what America has.

And Australia, which is also much smaller than the United States, gives off more green house gasses...

Smooth Operator... that graph proves that you are wrong.

IRT Crawley: Liberalism is a mental disorder. I firmly believe that. It has all the signs and characteristics of some wierd condition just like OCD or being bipolar. You have to be disgregarding all logic and facts for Liberal economics to make any sense at all.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

That is why havin more than 5 TV channelss it stupid. I still enjoy many programs, jsut becuase i only watch them once aweek. I dont have 24 hour news, and the small ammout of TV i watch (about 1.5 hours), i am very critical about.
Too much TV i say.

We must remebr that we could be critical about any country in the world, it is jsut America has so mcuh money going to it's GOvernment.

It is peoples ignorance and lazyness that is most shocking, this being displayed by well educated and well off members of society.
THis being displayed through a number of things
- over use of cars
- obesity and overwieghtness (unhealthy lifestyle)
- treatement of children, allowing drinkin, appaling behaviour, excessive eating and TV wathcing
- wastefullness (as shown earlier)

most of these are jsut out of being lazy, and this generation is sometimes know as the "baby boomers" or "lazy f*****s" as some might say.

Alos supported by the fact that the whole county of Surrey (50,000 peeps plus) cna only produce 1 - 400m runner in the vets age group, this sit can also be taken advantage of by the clever human being, at 3 gold medals cna be extracted from such a sitution - proven by my mum.

[5m0oth_0p3r4t0r]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]trogdor1289

I hate to tell you this but a per captia graph doesn't work due to the vast differnces in population size between those listed country's.

please elaborate, as that is exactly why you would use “per capita” measurements..

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

IRT Smooth Operator:

1) You are from Germany right? Lets not get me started on how without US intervention... you would be a province of the USSR.

sorry to disappoint you and annihilate the next point you’re making.. I’m from Sweden, only live temporarily in Germany..

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

2)Upset that we use more oil then we make? Okay... think about this: The US pioneered extraction and refinement methods of oil, which spread to the rest of the world (Britain helped also). If not for us... there would be no oil! If you think our society is wasteful, and you actually believe that, then reduce your own carbon footprint and stop telling other people how to live!

I’m not upset that you use more oil than you produce.. that’s just balancing recourses.. (or it would be, only the west is using up a limited resource long before the rest of the world can afford to..)
And as to the “carbon footprint”, as I’m Swedish.. you’ll find mine way at the top of the diagram.. this in spite of Sweden having less capita per sqr.km. (a large chunk of carbon pollution is transports..) AND having a colder climate (overall) than the US..
maybe you should start lobbying for the US to stop blocking the Kyoto Protocol and “STFU” as we say..

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

3) Noam Chomsky? He's a misguided, anti-american socialist/communist. I'm not saying that out of instant reaction, I've read his stuff, and he's a moron, his logic simply isn't logic...

your views and interpretations of Noam Chomsky are endearing.. but you seem to fail at understanding that his greatness lies in that he bases most of his analysis on declassified internal documents of the US government foreign policy strategies and historical fact.
You can disagree with his position all you want.. but if you do not understand what your own government has been and is up to (in their own words..) it is you, my friend, who is ignorant..

[5m0oth_0p3r4t0r]

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

According to the above graph... Icleland is as wasteful and Ireland is almost as wasteful as America... and their populations that are fractions of what America has.

And Australia, which is also much smaller than the United States, gives off more green house gasses...

Smooth Operator... that graph proves that you are wrong.

IRT Crawley: Liberalism is a mental disorder. I firmly believe that. It has all the signs and characteristics of some wierd condition just like OCD or being bipolar. You have to be disgregarding all logic and facts for Liberal economics to make any sense at all.

Ever heard about “per capita”..??? you just killed all your future arguments by showing your total ignorance.. how the fcuk have you ever taken in any facts or figures???????..
YOU, sir, are a complete moron..

*Wolfmaster: Easy on the swearing buddy. *

[trogdor1289]

I agree that the US should adopt the Kyoto protocol as should all 1st world countries plus all the deveopling country's when they are able to. Just explain to me why it is you seem to believe all liberals are idiots admittly some are but so are replubicans. Me personally I'm liberal on some issues and right wing on others.
Also smooth_opreator let's not turn this into a flame war.

[Top_Cat_AxJnAt]

my mum kicks your ass. Sorry. A reference to my above post.

[5m0oth_0p3r4t0r]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]trogdor1289

Also smooth_opreator let's not turn this into a flame war.

Yeah, I was a bit harsh then.. I just got carried away when finding out the mental level of my ideological adversary Figisaacnewton. I will behave in the future, at least mostly..

sorry..

Originally Posted by Figisaacnewton

And Australia, which is also much smaller than the United States, gives off more green house gasses...

And just to clarify/educate, Australia is a country of 2 ppl/sqr.km in comparison to US 30 (or Sweden 20). Due to the massive differences in how far goods will have to travel to reach people, it is not VERY strange that Australia should have such high CO2 emissions.. (it should be noted that the population of Australia IS mainly concentrated to city/urban areas along the costs, but they still face HUGE distances in delivering goods etc. to ppl in the inland..)

[trogdor1289]

Originally Posted by Top _Cat the great

my mum kicks your ass. Sorry. A reference to my above post.

Top_cat I will let that one slide. But keep this as a discussion of politics not a flame the person you don't agree with thread.

[solodude23]

Originally Posted by 5m0oth_0p3r4t0r

Ever heard about “per capita”..??? you just killed all your future arguments by showing your total ignorance.. how the fcuk have you ever taken in any facts or figures???????..
YOU, sir, are a complete moron..

I assumed someone would turn into an immature asshole pretty fast. I was right. But no offence, of course.