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Old 05-27-2006, 12:32 PM   #11
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Confessions Of An Isolationist Wannabe
We're the only thing keeping the planet from reverting back to an early 1800's style plunder, war, and rampage philosophy.
I doubt it...

Besides, I know America does a lot of good things giving aid and all, but does that give them the right to do what they want?

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Old 05-27-2006, 12:49 PM   #12

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what do you mean do what we want?
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Old 05-27-2006, 12:49 PM   #13
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We are not wasteful; we just don't use everything to its full potential.

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Old 05-27-2006, 12:54 PM   #14

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We are not wasteful; we just don't use everything to its full potential.
all western civilization is wasteful, the US just happen to be a bit more so than the rest..

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figures from 2004..
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Old 05-27-2006, 01:10 PM   #15

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I believe that to the very bone. I was never an isolanist, which is why I get aggrevated when someone thinks the U.S abuses their power. I hate how some of us Americans think nowadays. I mean the population here is the very meaning of the phrase Ignorance is Bliss. Even my familiy members hate the whole deal we have with Iraq, always complaining about world issues and bush does this and does that wrong. Yet half of them barely know a thing about culture beyond our borders. I'm not a nationalist though, but I just dislike when people constantly complain about how America.

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I believe that to the very bone. I was never an isolanist, which is why I get aggrevated when someone thinks the U.S abuses their power. I hate how some of us Americans think nowadays. I mean the population here is the very meaning of the phrase Ignorance is Bliss. Even my familiy members hate the whole deal we have with Iraq, always complaining about world issues and bush does this and does that wrong. Yet half of them barely know a thing about culture beyond our borders. I'm not a nationalist though, but I just dislike when people constantly complain about how America.
Half of America is Liberal, thats where the idiots come from. That and the media has a unbelievable effect on peoples minds.
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Old 05-27-2006, 01:39 PM   #17

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Half of America is Liberal, thats where the idiots come from. That and the media has a unbelievable effect on peoples minds.
I agree that the media pretty much only reports negative stuff because that's what their audience wants. But you can't just come out and say all the stupid people are the liberal's. People from all of the parties are ignorant and stupid not just the liberals that's the worst genrealization I've seen in a while.



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Old 05-27-2006, 01:40 PM   #18

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you still need to check this out I think..



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Old 05-27-2006, 01:42 PM   #19

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1) You are from Germany right? Lets not get me started on how without US intervention... you would be a province of the USSR.

2) Noam Chomsky? He's a misguided, anti-american socialist/communist. I'm not saying that out of instant reaction, I've read his stuff, and he's a moron, his logic simply isn't logic...


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Chomsky describes himself as a libertarian socialist and a sympathizer of anarcho-syndicalism (he is a member of the IWW)
In other words... he's an idiot. He believes all government is inherently evil, unless it 1) does very little (libertarian) and 2) equalizes everyone, despite inherent human inequality (socialist). Libertarian socialist is an oxymoron. To be a libertarian means government should be as little as possible and have as little impact on everything as possilble. To be socialist means that the government should be big enough and have enough programs to take all the money from the rich and give it to the poor untill everyone is in one big happy class. And for fuck's sake, the IWW?! They are straight up communist. If you think this guy is right, then you are the ignorant one my freind.

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Upset that we use more oil then we make? Okay... think about this: The US pioneered extraction and refinement methods of oil, which spread to the rest of the world (Britain helped also). If not for us... there would be no oil! If you think our society is wasteful, and you actually believe that, then reduce your own carbon footprint and stop telling other people how to live!

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Old 05-27-2006, 01:45 PM   #20

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all western civilization is wasteful, the US just happen to be a bit more so than the rest..

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figures from 2004..
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I hate to tell you this but a per captia graph doesn't work due to the vast differnces in population size between those listed country's.



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