America: The World's Designated Driver

[Skullening.Chris]

Originally Posted by HogansHeros

There are many Muslims who feel they should protect Jews and Christians because they are fellow “people of the book” and worship the same god, only different interpretation of him.

Awesome, I thought I was the only one who looked at it like that. I think there's a definite connection between Christianity/Judaism/Islam and that they're all kinda different interps of the same general monotheologic ideals that developed over time.

And yeah, the Crusades were the ultimate example of religious state-sponsored terrorism.

[Deuce6]

Originally Posted by Skullening.Chris

Oh yeah, I'm sure the soldiers would neeever lie about something like that

We don't know. But I give them more credit than I do any news source.

[Deuce6]

Originally Posted by Skullening.Chris

Awesome, I thought I was the only one who looked at it like that. I think there's a definite connection between Christianity/Judaism/Islam and that they're all kinda different interps of the same general monotheologic ideals that developed over time.

And yeah, the Crusades were the ultimate example of religious state-sponsored terrorism.

And how long ago did that happen? Muslims still execute christians to this day.

[Skullening.Chris]

Yeah, true, but this "Christian" nation doesn't do anything about it. Instead we're chasing down random incompetent leaders and trying to force an instant democratic gov't on lands that never even asked for such a thing.

And I realized now the hilarity of calling America a designated driver considering our own appointed president is all about drunk driving and cocaine...

[ETCS_keysR]

well, that thing about muslims hating christians is THE most stupid sentence in this whole thread... Islam has a very long tradition of being tolerant, way more tolerant than Christianity, which never was tolerant in fact - and we don't have crusades right now, because western countries got secularized and independent form religion. And about Muslims killing every Christian on sight, for being a Christian - that's not right. They don't hate christianity, they don't hate Jesus Christ which happens to be one of their prophets - they just hate those people, who are coming to their country with tanks and bombs to take their oil. And will kill them on sight. And I would do exactly the same.

This isn't a matter of religion vs. religion war - in fact, religion has nothing to do with this. Vietnamese weren't Muslim, right? And they had suicide bombers too - because they were desperate, fighting with much stronger enemy. Religion just helps in this - but it's not the source.

And about that mentally-challenged kid cuffed to the sink - I'm not surprised. Iraquis don't have money for good education. But I'm surpised as hell, when you tell an average American to find a Poland (yep, a nationalist example) on a world map, and he's looking for it in South America, Africa, Asia and Europe finally. And then he finds it maybe, if he knows how to read. That's a bummer, right? So much money for and education, and you have to lure scientists from all over the world to invent something new, because american society cannot "produce" as much scientists, scholars and people with an degree, as should.

And with saying that "liberals are stupid period" you are fitting very nicely in this picture. Tolerance is a product of an educated and open mind - you probably lack those.

Smooth, hachichin - keep up the good work we Europeans should stick together and it's f**king thruth, that our polish geverment supported the unlawful agression of Iraq while most of the society were against this. And still are.

and back to the topic - I totally agree with the guy cited in the first post on one point. America should go isolationist again - and world would be a much better place. But world without McDonalds and Hollywood is just a beautifull dream...

EDIT:
"Muslims still execute christians to this day" - well, don't you say... and Christians are also executing Christians... and Buddhists execute Christians, and Christians execute Buddhists, and atheists execute all of them including other atheists - a world is just one big religious war, or I missed something? How about this - they execute Christians by some reasons, but not for being a Christian? Maybe for being an American? I'll buy that.

[Deuce6]

lol no comment on the president.

But as far as chasing down incompetent leaders, and forcing a democratic government for someone who's never seen an Iraqi ask them for help. I've seen people ask us for help, to ask for new leaders, to give them hope. I've seen them celebrate in the streets after voting. Putting their faces on the news, with inked fingers waving, ignoring threats made by insurgents.

And you still don't think they want a democratic government?

[Deuce6]

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

well, that thing about muslims hating christians is THE most stupid sentence in this whole thread... Islam has a very long tradition of being tolerant, way more tolerant than Christianity, which never was tolerant in fact - and we don't have crusades right now, because western countries got secularized and independent form religion. And about Muslims killing every Christian on sight, for being a Christian - that's not right. They don't hate christianity, they don't hate Jesus Christ which happens to be one of their prophets - they just hate those people, who are coming to their country with tanks and bombs to take their oil. And will kill them on sight. And I would do exactly the same.

This isn't a matter of religion vs. religion war - in fact, religion has nothing to do with this. Vietnamese weren't Muslim, right? And they had suicide bombers too - because they were desperate, fighting with much stronger enemy. Religion just helps in this - but it's not the source.

And about that mentally-challenged kid cuffed to the sink - I'm not surprised. Iraquis don't have money for good education. But I'm surpised as hell, when you tell an average American to find a Poland (yep, a nationalist example) on a world map, and he's looking for it in South America, Africa, Asia and Europe finally. And then he finds it maybe, if he knows how to read. That's a bummer, right? So much money for and education, and you have to lure scientists from all over the world to invent something new, because american society cannot "produce" as much scientists, scholars and people with an degree, as should.

And with saying that "liberals are stupid period" you are fitting very nicely in this picture. Tolerance is a product of an educated and open mind - you probably lack those.

Smooth, hachichin - keep up the good work we Europeans should stick together and it's f**king thruth, that our polish geverment supported the unlawful agression of Iraq while most of the society were against this. And still are.

and back to the topic - I totally agree with the guy cited in the first post on one point. America should go isolationist again - and world would be a much better place. But world without McDonalds and Hollywood is just a beautifull dream...

But it's not unlawful for any country to do whatever the fuck they want? So who polices the world then? The UN? Oh my, what a shitty place the world would be if that happened, they can't even stop their own council members from comitting atrocities. So who then defends the good from the bad? Poland?

[Arikara]

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

well, that thing about muslims hating christians is THE most stupid sentence in this whole thread... Islam has a very long tradition of being tolerant, way more tolerant than Christianity, which never was tolerant in fact - and we don't have crusades right now, because western countries got secularized and independent form religion. And about Muslims killing every Christian on sight, for being a Christian - that's not right. They don't hate christianity, they don't hate Jesus Christ which happens to be one of their prophets - they just hate those people, who are coming to their country with tanks and bombs to take their oil. And will kill them on sight. And I would do exactly the same.

Islam is tolerant? Since when. The Persians slaughtered thousands of non-Muslims during their time. "who are coming to their country with tanks and bombs to take their oil. And will kill them on sight", that comment made me laugh. Yep we are there to take their oil eventho oil prices in North America is as high as they are. If the US/Western world wanted oil, they would take Canadas. Canada has more oil then the entire Middle East.

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

And about that mentally-challenged kid cuffed to the sink - I'm not surprised. Iraquis don't have money for good education. But I'm surpised as hell, when you tell an average American to find a Poland (yep, a nationalist example) on a world map, and he's looking for it in South America, Africa, Asia and Europe finally. And then he finds it maybe, if he knows how to read. That's a bummer, right? So much money for and education, and you have to lure scientists from all over the world to invent something new, because american society cannot "produce" as much scientists, scholars and people with an degree, as should.

Ok, hold up. So because they don't have a good education system or the money to pay for it, it is ok to chain a mentally-handicapped child to a sink? That's a new one. Also, the whole "Ask an American to find Poland on the map". That isn't only something you find in the US, that is something you see all over the world. When I did the typical European trip, I had a Canadian and American flag on my back pack (I have dual Canadian/American citizenship)...I had people come up to me and ask if I lived in an igloo in Canada, the worst part is I couldn't tell if they were serious or not.

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So much for no scholars, scientists, etc. eh? Last time I checked the US was at the leading edge of medicine and technology.

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

Smooth, hachichin - keep up the good work we Europeans should stick together and it's f**king thruth, that our polish geverment supported the unlawful agression of Iraq while most of the society were against this. And still are.

It was obvious before you were anti-American, you just proved 100%.

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

and back to the topic - I totally agree with the guy cited in the first post on one point. America should go isolationist again - and world would be a much better place. But world without McDonalds and Hollywood is just a beautifull dream...

If the US became and isolationist country, have fun being ruled by China or Russia.

Originally Posted by ETCS_keysR

How about this - they execute Christians by some reasons, but not for being a Christian? Maybe for being an American? I'll buy that.

Then I guess the British, Canadian, etc. Christians that have been taken hostage were believed to be American then? Nope, they were executed because they were "infidels".

[Pence]

At Arikara i guess everythink ETCS_keysR has said should be taken lightly then eh?

At the moment i am to tired to read through it.

[Deuce6]

wow nice rebuttal arikara.