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Old 12-07-2007, 03:35 PM   #21

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It was an SKS, AFAIK. Same thing really though
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/07/mal...ter/index.html
security camera shows him with an AK47


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Old 12-07-2007, 05:06 PM   #22

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Bodega owners (generally foreign.. yes I'm racist.) here in the US can be found importing and selling illegal weapons to gangs. Illegal immigrants do it too. Restricting the legal sale of firearms does nothing for the current problem today. I've been selling firearms for about the last year and a half, and I have denied sales to customers who don't fit the bill of a responsible owner, or seem that they're getting a straw purchase, and the FBI has denied sales as well.

Drug dealers don't have to consult the FBI for their sales or purchases.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:09 PM   #23
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I imagine a totally different outcome if that teacher, or another teacher in the complex was packing a pistol in their desk/on their belts and wasn't afraid to use it.
I'm not so sure that would be the case. I don't think the solution to a gun problem is more guns, particularly in the example I cited.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:19 PM   #24

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I look forward to this in pr.


The right to arm bears?

They could use support weapons as pistols finally allowing supressive fire.

I'm a strong believer than murder is commited in the mind long before the real world, and people will want to murder people forever, the problem is guns make it too easy and clinical, make polearms and swords and other exposed (ie not conceale) melee weapons legal, murders will drop i wager.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:26 PM   #25

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If civilians are armed to the teeth, then the criminal underworld goes up a level.
Not true. http://www.weaponvideos.org/viewvide...n_gun_control/

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Making guns harder to obtain is the only way to slow
You are completely incorrect. If a criminal wants a gun, he will get one. Criminals do not obey gun laws. You will only disarm the law-abiding citizens who DO obey guns laws. Bad guys go on killing sprees without fear of retaliation from a bystander. This has been proven time and time again. Cities in the US that allow the carry of concealed firearms have LESS gun crimes.

Blame the person, not the gun. Look at this douchebag! This is what our society is today! Little emo kids that don't have any social skills so they get lonely, cry, and start bitching about everything, eventually leading to this.

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I really don't look forward to a society where no one leaves their house without packing heat, and where a pickpocketing turns into a gunfight. We have something to protect us from criminals. Cops.



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Old 12-07-2007, 05:35 PM   #27

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I really don't look forward to a society where no one leaves their house without packing heat, and where a pickpocketing turns into a gunfight. We have something to protect us from criminals. Cops.
As a future LEO... that warms my heart, but makes me want to laugh aloud as well. Read the book "Call 911 and die". The cops atleast in the US have no legal obligation to protect you from harm. Moral, maybe... But you seem to have this illusion that all cops love their jobs.. All cops aren't jaded.. and that the police force is large enough to handle the problems society has right now.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:47 PM   #28

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Not true. http://www.weaponvideos.org/viewvide...n_gun_control/



You are completely incorrect. If a criminal wants a gun, he will get one. Criminals do not obey gun laws. You will only disarm the law-abiding citizens who DO obey guns laws. Bad guys go on killing sprees without fear of retaliation from a bystander. This has been proven time and time again. Cities in the US that allow the carry of concealed firearms have LESS gun crimes.

Blame the person, not the gun. Look at this douchebag! This is what our society is today! Little emo kids that don't have any social skills so they get lonely, cry, and start bitching about everything, eventually leading to this.

The problem isn't always the kid. For the most part, it's shitty parenting.

If the kid has a reason to be all depressed and shit, get him therapy and drugs. If not, put him in line. Keep tabs on him. good parenting would have stopped this. People hate to blame the parents after things like this because "they've going through enough". But it's almost always a result of bad parenting.

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/07/mal...ter/index.html
security camera shows him with an AK47
it's an SKS.

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Old 12-07-2007, 05:50 PM   #29

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We have something to protect us from criminals. Cops.
I called the cops and they took 30 minutes to get to my house.
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Old 12-07-2007, 05:51 PM   #30

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I doubt that they let people with psychological problems in the US own guns.
Didn't the kid who recently was in the news have psychological problems when he was younger? He threated to murder his step mother. Seems like someone like that shouldn't get his hands on a rifle...

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