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Old 11-20-2007, 09:30 PM   #51
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Well it seems the mouvment existed at a time at least:

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The contemporary flat earth movement originated with an eccentric English inventor, Samuel Rowbotham (1816-1884). Based on his literal interpretation of certain biblical passages, Rowbotham published a 16-page pamphlet, which he later expanded into a 430 page book Earth Not a Globe expounding his views. According to Rowbotham's system, which he called "Zetetic Astronomy", the earth is a flat disk centered at the North Pole and bounded along its southern edge by a wall of ice, with the sun and moon 3000 miles and the "cosmos" 3100 miles above earth.

Rowbotham and his followers gained notoriety by engaging in raucous public debates with leading scientists of the day. One such clash, involving the prominent naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace, led to several lawsuits for fraud and libel.

After Rowbotham's death, his followers established the Universal Zetetic Society, published a magazine entitled The Earth Not a Globe Review and remained active well into the early part of the 20th century. After World War I, the movement underwent a slow decline.

In the United States Rowbotham's ideas were taken up by the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church. Founded by a Scottish faith healer, John Alexander Dowie, in 1895, the church established the theocratic community of Zion, Illinois on the shore of Lake Michigan forty miles (seventy kilometers) north of Chicago. In 1906, Dowie was deposed as leader of the cult by his lieutenant, Wilbur Glenn Voliva. The flat earth doctrine was exclusively taught in community schools. Voliva was a pioneer in religious radio broadcasting. Listeners to his 100,000-watt (100 KW) radio station were treated to thundering denunciations of the evils of evolution and round earth astronomy. Voliva died in 1942 and the church disintegrated under a cloud of financial scandals. A few die-hard flat earth supporters persisted in Zion into the 1950s.
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But the website which is pointed to seems either to be a big hoax or been taken over by spaghetti monster worshipers in disguise

All thats seems to remain is maybe a news letter (The Flat Earth News) sent out from Lancaster, California.

So far from being alive and kicking

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Old 11-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #52
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which is exactly what you are doing as well. picking verses that you decide should be taken literally. its a two way street.
Wrong. The bible claims itself to be infallible, the divine word of God - if this is true, it should be taken literally, no? Are you suggesting that God sapke in metaphors to deliberately confuse and tempt us? That seems rather malevolent, wouldn't you say?

Either we accept the bible as the divine word of God (and thus free of error), or we don't. If it is the first, we can dismiss the bible as it is ripe with contradictions and absurdities. If it is the second, we can pick and choose what to believe, and that isn't very fair.

Was the story of Noah literal? How about Genesis?


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Old 11-20-2007, 11:41 PM   #53
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it was written for the comon folf of the time to understand. Like how Jesus used the mustard seed as the smallest sed, even though we now know it isn't the common folk thought it was. So it all depends on the subject



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Old 11-20-2007, 11:50 PM   #54
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I think we should start our own society called the Hostess Earth Society, in which everyone believes that the Earth is just the largest Twinkie in existence and that the ozone hole over Antarctica is actually caused by a giant cream filling dispenser arm. And yes, you may now turn my idea into a innuendo.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:59 PM   #55
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it was written for the comon folf of the time to understand. Like how Jesus used the mustard seed as the smallest sed, even though we now know it isn't the common folk thought it was. So it all depends on the subject
It's nice to know that our unknowable and infallible creator puts things in layman's terms for the slower among us. How considerate.


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Old 11-21-2007, 02:26 AM   #56
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You can't argue with religion. Religion is making something exist through belief alone.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:07 AM   #57
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Thanks Gara. Dunehunter laid down the rules, and they were broken again.

It's getting too heaty in here. Locked.

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we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance
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