Serious question about US weapon exports

Expendable Grunt · 10-18-2007, 05:15 AM

I often hear that the US is "the biggest exporter of weapons in the world". While I know we sell things like bombs and missiles, I also heard we sell our ground weapons to many places. But who buys American-made M16's? I haven't exactly seen them around, though in some places in the world it would NOT surprise me if I came across old automatic M16A1's.

Harrod200 · 10-18-2007, 06:43 AM

I'm fairly sure Russia/Ex-Soviet are a bigger exporter than the US...60 million AK47's world attest to that. US my get more money from it bit in terms of quantity they're nowhere near.

I know Britain buys a few things; and a lot was previously sold to places such as Afghanistan, Israel and the like but they seem to have a lot of French stuff too.

If the country is on the CIA's 'happy list' the US probably sells to them, but given the much better suitability of Soviet weapons for low-budget field maintanence and their lower price tag...

[R-MOD]dunehunter · 10-18-2007, 08:48 AM

I believe that Fatah uses a large amount of US weapons like M16s and M4s. However, I think that the US mostly sells more expensive stuff, with Russia and other cheaper exporters selling handguns.

WNxKenwayy · 10-18-2007, 10:15 AM

Hardly anyone else uses the m16 series family. That alone should tell you what a piece of junk it is.

The_motivator · 10-18-2007, 12:12 PM

and what the hell does that have to do with the OP's post, kenway?

sekiryu · 10-18-2007, 12:47 PM

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Hardly anyone else uses the m16 series family. That alone should tell you what a piece of junk it is.

*sigh* if only people would believe that.

I had one "firearms expert" (PM me for his name/more info on the discussion) who's drunk on the "M16s are the sh!t" drink. He does tactical classes about 2 hours outside of where I live, and in passing I had mentioned my desire to buy a Steyr AUG, and his reply was, and I quote, "AUGs SUCK!". After drilling him for more information, he came up with some bollocks, then declined to comment any further.

WNxLT7 · 10-18-2007, 01:05 PM

Germany uses the M16 during their basic training. Not sure why though ?

BlackOps_CptSplode · 10-18-2007, 01:14 PM

lord of war is a movie on that topic, i personally dont know how accurate it is, i have not done to much research on the topic but i can easily see where the us could be labeled the biggest exporter in firearms if not directly exported from the us then possibly the distribution from other sources. I mean it dosnt take much looking to find that the us supplied the tallaban (spellcheck?) with weapons to fight the Russians when they came in to afganastan, and i think the us gave the rebels in cuba weapons right before the bay of pigs

SiN|ScarFace · 10-18-2007, 01:32 PM

Many Latin american countries use them and many Asia/Pacific govts use them.

requiem · 10-18-2007, 01:37 PM

This is 2004, but still:

http://www.ploughshares.ca/libraries...or/mons05c.htm

10-18-2007, 05:15 AM	#1
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10-18-2007, 06:43 AM	#2
Harrod200 Join Date: Sep 2007 United Kingdom Location: Blighty Posts: 1,777	I'm fairly sure Russia/Ex-Soviet are a bigger exporter than the US...60 million AK47's world attest to that. US my get more money from it bit in terms of quantity they're nowhere near. I know Britain buys a few things; and a lot was previously sold to places such as Afghanistan, Israel and the like but they seem to have a lot of French stuff too. If the country is on the CIA's 'happy list' the US probably sells to them, but given the much better suitability of Soviet weapons for low-budget field maintanence and their lower price tag...
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10-18-2007, 10:15 AM	#4
WNxKenwayy Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,062	Hardly anyone else uses the m16 series family. That alone should tell you what a piece of junk it is.
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10-18-2007, 12:12 PM	#5
The_motivator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 600	and what the hell does that have to do with the OP's post, kenway?
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10-18-2007, 01:14 PM	#8
BlackOps_CptSplode Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 23	lord of war is a movie on that topic, i personally dont know how accurate it is, i have not done to much research on the topic but i can easily see where the us could be labeled the biggest exporter in firearms if not directly exported from the us then possibly the distribution from other sources. I mean it dosnt take much looking to find that the us supplied the tallaban (spellcheck?) with weapons to fight the Russians when they came in to afganastan, and i think the us gave the rebels in cuba weapons right before the bay of pigs
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10-18-2007, 08:48 AM	#3
[R-MOD]dunehunter Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Belgium Location: Belgium Posts: 5,576	I believe that Fatah uses a large amount of US weapons like M16s and M4s. However, I think that the US mostly sells more expensive stuff, with Russia and other cheaper exporters selling handguns.

10-18-2007, 01:05 PM	#7
WNxLT7 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: THIS IS LAVA Posts: 340	Germany uses the M16 during their basic training. Not sure why though ?

10-18-2007, 01:32 PM	#9
SiN\|ScarFace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,504	Many Latin american countries use them and many Asia/Pacific govts use them.

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