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Old 10-14-2007, 12:55 PM   #11

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By telling DarkHoodling how to fix his "every 60 second lag spike with Vista" :O
Thats easy. Uninstall that POS OS and put XP on...

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:00 PM   #12
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^^ its not a pos... its one of the best os's ive EVER used... and thats alot...

well figgy... wat are you intrested in? an auto or a semi?

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:08 PM   #13
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ok... I'm not entirely sure... still doing research on this but it seems you have to be military/le or a class 3 dealer at the moment to get one

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_mp7a1_general.html
(its not on the civvy page but it is in the LE page)


I'm still searching though.

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:11 PM   #14

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Buy here

...hmmm.... *looking for a place to hide*
You can come up for air now Blake, it was only an airsoft version.

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Old 10-14-2007, 01:21 PM   #15
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http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/wforu...8de373c0f9ecdc

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/wforu...8de373c0f9ecdc

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/wforu...8de373c0f9ecdc

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/wforu...8de373c0f9ecdc

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/wforu...8de373c0f9ecdc

those answer your question.

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Old 10-14-2007, 02:00 PM   #16

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well it depends. where do you live and do you want semi only or full auto?

if u want semi only go to your local gun dealer and fill out the proper forms to get a rifle (need to be at least 1 and have them order you one.
Wrong. HK has never imported the MP7 for commercial sales.
About the LEO and military part, you can't just for ask them, your department must ask a Class 3 dealer.

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AFAIK you can get a Class 3 license without opening a gun shop.
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A Class 3 Federal Firearms License is required for dealing, manufacturing, and importing firearms for the express purpose of revenue generation - not collecting. It is a felony to obtain a Class 3 License for the purpose of enhancing your collection.
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But I think the class 3 licencse makes you a gun dealer, it doesn't mean you have to own a gun store.
My understanding was that getting was not all that easy and somewhat expensive.
You are probably talking about a regular FFL in where you don't need a store. But these are NFA items and you should have a store front.
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:38 PM   #17

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Well, because I live in Washington state, I get screwed, as here it is illegal to own a machine gun unless I can prove I am employed in the sale, manufacture, testing or repair of machine guns which will be either exported, or bought by state or federal agencies...

I don't think a class three dealer's license covers that, but im not sure. ive been unable to find an actual application form for that anywhere, ive just figured out that it costs 200 bucks, and ill have to wait till im 21.

apparently, it is possible (and has been done) to set up your house has a 'dealership', but this legally subjects your house to ATF inspections (cough cough raids) essentially whenever they want.

So unless there's semi auto version of the gun made (and a full auto conversion kit > ) im probably out of luck...

unless i want to create a fake id saying i live in oregon or idaho and illegally transport the gun across state lines.... heh...

or perhaps fly over to germany, buy the gun and somehow ship it home... lol...

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Old 10-14-2007, 03:12 PM   #18
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well if you do wait for the civvy version to come out (no difference just semi auto and (i think) a full stock because the one on the mp7 is a collapseable stock[illegal without class 3?])

i know a guy who has his hous set up as one... he gets checked a few times a year... but its very annoying and prolly embrassing when it happens... (they did a swat style raid one time at his house.. the others just have been a few guys that come in and look around)

getting the semi and then a full auto conversion not only is ILLEGAL its expensive... there is a thing you can get that will "simulate" full auto. it bolts to the trigger and it rotates (via hand crank) and pulls the trigger. and its legal and considered by atf and whatnot as a semi auto. http://gatlingguns.com/indexframeset.html go there then click gat trigger.
and if you ask.. the exploading targets are LOUD! i had the smallest one and it was so loud...it hurt my ears through earplugs and earmuffs... id hate and love to see what the 2 pounder does...

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Old 10-14-2007, 04:24 PM   #19

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well if you do wait for the civvy version to come out (no difference just semi auto and (i think)
You, I, and many other people will be probably waiting forever.

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a full stock because the one on the mp7 is a collapseable stock[illegal without class 3?])
You don't need a Class 3 license to own an SBR, SBS, or other NFA items.
If it has a less than 16 inch bbl with a stock, just register it as an SBR with the ATF.

For the MP7 to be legal it would have to be:
A) Short barrel "pistol", no stock
or
B) 16" barrel with a stock,collapsible stock or full.

I would go with A.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:27 PM   #20
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Well I live in Jersey and to quote Bob Dylan " in jersey everythings legal as long as you don't get caught".
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