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Old 09-22-2007, 05:20 PM   #31
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In the UK you have to, else you get branded a racist and locked up.


Alba is a smart woman though, she tackles a few issues like a real person should. It is one country and everyone should respect the natives and thair freedoms more than grabbing our taxes and doing f'ck all other than call everyone a racist.

In most cases I would not care less because Australia, South Africa and New Zeland are only a flight ticket away but I am thinking about my age now, and my kids are going to have an even harder time than I am having now.
Out of curiosity, which part of he UK do you live in?
It seems quite narrow minded to me and quite often i find people preaching this view to be living in places that completely lack any sort of cultural mix, which couldn't possibly mean that they are subjected to these 'negative effects' brought by conflicting cultures.

Also, Im never sure what an earth some people are on about when they complain about "Taking British jobs away from British people", when their next argument seems to be immigrants "Are lazy and dont do anything for the community"...
That lazy, do nothing immigrant polish guy who takes welfare, and at the same time takes a plumbing job away from a hardworking Britain.
(Plumbers are pay WAY too much if you ask me anyway).

Irony also being that many of our 1st world countries with better standards of living were built on a booming slave trade (which involves 'doing f'ck all' and forcing others to do it) and colonization (which frankly IS not respecting the freedom of natives).

I dont think most people with strong opinions have any idea how strongly immigration benefits their own economy.

...mongol...

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Old 09-22-2007, 05:35 PM   #32
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I would never claim they immigrants, illegal or otherwise, that I have known are lazy as a group.

For the first thing they made the effort to get here.

And usually they don't have family that will support them while they sit around and do nothing or study basket weaving at the local community college.

But you need to face the fact that illegals in the workforce hurt the legal workers.

I don't know what percentage are really doing " jobs that we won't do" but in my profession, the oft maligned plumber, they are very common.

They, immigrants, are not by any means stupid or unskilled and since they are willing to work for less than I am, and the employer doesn't need to pay all the associated costs of a legal worker they are far more likely to get hired.

I personally could give a sh_t if you want to live in some ethnic enclave because I know that your kids will wander into the wider world of America and most won't want to go back to the enclave and will marry and have children with someone of a different ethnic background and so create another pure blood American.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:36 AM   #33

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Mexicans crossing the borders illegally? We friggin moved the border on them....heh-heh.

In the 1800's we took California, new Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and Texas from Mexico as well as conquer all the way to Mexico City. The only reason we didn't take Sonora was that it didn't have sufficient water at the time before modern irrigation techniques.

Hell if the Brits hadn't of come back to spank us in 1812 we would have taken Canada as well!

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Old 09-23-2007, 01:15 PM   #34
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And if you keep going back almost every piece of dirt used to belong to someone different than it does now.
screw La Raza and that transcontinental migration BS.
America has clearly defined borders and I don't think it too much to ask of our over sized federal government to know, when and where someone crosses that border.

It's not racist or anti-immigrant or nativist to want some level of control over the borders of your own country.
That's leaving aside the terrorists, who could easily learn to speak Spanish and fool most if not all Anglos.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:26 PM   #35

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Yep, yep, true, true, but I seriously think the border is blatantly open on purpose. what's gonna happen when they officially open the borders to Mexico and Canada within the North American Union? That would give Mexico a reason for being extra diligent in who they let into ol'Mex. In fact I'd bet all Mexican borders as well as international airports will be manned by joint US/Mexico agents. That's the super duper secret plan...the Monroe doctrine in turbo mode.

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Old 09-23-2007, 01:44 PM   #36
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From what I understand the Mexican immigration laws are quite strict, now I also understand enforcement to be more of a fluid nature.
I understand that fluidity is common in many government agencies and I don't see how US agencies would adapt to that level of fluctuating priorities.
IF ya know what I mean man ..
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:01 PM   #37

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From what I understand the Mexican immigration laws are quite strict, now I also understand enforcement to be more of a fluid nature.
I understand that fluidity is common in many government agencies and I don't see how US agencies would adapt to that level of fluctuating priorities.
IF ya know what I mean man ..
Yep sure do brother. Graft is culturally and institutionally ingrained in Mexico's society. Mexico's system is based upon Napoleonic Law; You're guilty till you prove your innocence, and pay-offs are actually legal, shy of murder charges that is (You are automatically pronounced guilty by the court of justice and offered a chance to pay a fine or fee, or you may fight the charges in open court). So they aren't at all opposed to graft on any level.

Our system is based on British common law (the Magna Carta) where you are innocent till proven guilty and offered bail to prepare your case. So yea the US will have to re-program the entire Mexican psyche.

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Old 09-23-2007, 08:23 PM   #38
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So yea the US will have to re-program the entire Mexican psyche.

LMAO
OMFG
ROFL
Like we have the kind of culture and will that could reprogram a wayward German Shepard ....
TYVM......really laughing very loudly out loud
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:25 AM   #39

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You are very welcome compadre. Heh-heh, I'm laughin my assoff as well because the American cultural mindset programing apparatus is on hiatus at the moment till we sort out who we actually are at this point in history.

We might end up as compliant subservient camposinos one day...or is that actually the plan? To be held in check by the price of tortillas? Marie Antoinette; "Let them eat Tortillas...Que passa Amigo?

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Old 09-24-2007, 03:36 PM   #40
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Two man thread?

Yeah, id have to say that immigration could be slightly better in the UK, but its not 'at crisis levels' as many tabloids would tell you. However, there are far many more problems in the UK, like UBER bureaucracy and Tim Westwood.

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