After recent stabbing politican wants a gun ban

D_LaMz · 09-13-2007, 05:26 PM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...0912.wstab0912

Gun ban needed, not school metal detectors: McGuinty

KAREN HOWLETT AND JEFF GRAY

Globe and Mail Update

September 12, 2007 at 1:06 PM EDT

Ontario Liberal Leader Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday that he does not want to see the provinces' schools resort to installing metal detectors and having uniformed security officers patrol the halls in the wake of Tuesday's fatal stabbing at a Toronto high school.

Such a move, he said, would amount to the Americanization of schools in Ontario.

“I see that as an absolute last resort,” Mr. McGuinty told reporters during an election campaign stop.

Instead, he said, Ontario needs to distinguish itself from the United States by imposing an outright ban on hand guns.

“Let's ban handguns in Ontario,” he said. “Let's ban handguns across the country. Let's declare war against handguns.”

A 16-year-old Scarborough youth was stabbed to death on Tuesday on a walkway leading from Winston Churchill Collegiate Institute.

The teen's death comes four months after the shooting death of teenager Jordan Manners, placing the violence that has plagued Toronto front-and-centre in the provincial election campaign.

NDP Leader Howard Hampton blamed the Liberal government for failing to provide enough money for schools and municipalities for police.

“Schools do not have enough money to look after children at risk,” Mr. Hampton said.

“...You can't have kids being shot in school, being stabbed in the school ground. Schools need to have enough supervisors. They need to have strategies to deal with kids, particularly teenagers who are high risk. That's not happening, despite the fact that Dalton McGuinty promised to fix the school funding formula.”

He also said that, until the government fixes the problems created when Queen's Park “downloaded” various responsibilities like some social programs onto municipalities, local governments won't be able to afford to hire more police.

Mr. McGuinty, who was confronted before the press conference by a protester from the Ontario Taxpayers' Federation dressed as Pinocchio, said there are other ways the province can ensure that schools are safe and “sanctuaries for our kids.”

Flanked by firefighters, nurses and other public-sector workers, he said the Liberals, if re-elected, would put in place safe-school teams, consisting of police working with school officials and social workers, he said.

As part of the Liberal Party's 'stronger, safe schools' policy, he said, additional resources have been provided to schools to hire more vice-principals to provide additional supervision.

:canadastan:

El_Vikingo · 09-13-2007, 05:31 PM

This is why legalising abortion is a good idea, the solution is to stop the source.

What's the source? The children.

~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ · 09-13-2007, 05:33 PM

But if it was a knife that killed him we should clearly ban swords to prevent some kind of arms race that will result in our children carrying halberds to school to defend themselves.

Metal Detectors ?

I have a very sharp knife, 2 actually, that wouldn't be detected by metal detector so if I had reason to stab someone that wouldn't help, and neither would an increased amount of hall monitors.

Do they have a lot of the "Stop Snitching" T-shirts in Canada ?

SiN|ScarFace · 09-13-2007, 05:36 PM

Nanada.

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley · 09-13-2007, 05:44 PM

Tell him to go to hell.

It won't help, it'll just make things worse, like it did here.

Prydain · 09-13-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_LaMz

“Let's ban handguns in Ontario,” he said. “Let's ban handguns across the country. Let's declare war against handguns.”

War on Handguns?

Like the war on terror? That worked...

El_Vikingo · 09-13-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmedDrunk&Angry

But if it was a knife that killed him we should clearly ban swords to prevent some kind of arms race that will result in our children carrying halberds to school to defend themselves.

I blame WoW!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prydain

Like the war on terror? That worked...

Is it not still in progress?...

~~ExOps_Mercenary~~ · 09-13-2007, 06:41 PM

guns can't kill people the bullets do the killing.
sure you can beat someone to death with a gun it is fun (i have to much time on my hands in the middle east plus i'm not suppose to be there anyways) crazy am i, i would say so.
but really a gun triggers the bullet to fire the bullet hits the person and kills them or hurts them or if your a crappy shot you miss, lol. also us Americans have the right to bare arms even if we are assholes. early laws are the right ones because the government cared back then.

Prydain · 09-13-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Vikingo

Is it not still in progress?...

Exactly.

Quote:

guns can't kill people the bullets do the killing.
sure you can beat someone to death with a gun it is fun (i have to much time on my hands in the middle east plus i'm not suppose to be there anyways) crazy am i, i would say so.
but really a gun triggers the bullet to fire the bullet hits the person and kills them or hurts them or if your a crappy shot you miss, lol. also us Americans have the right to bare arms even if we are assholes. early laws are the right ones because the government cared back then.

Is this all one joke?

[R-DEV]IronTaxi · 09-13-2007, 06:56 PM

i totally agree...ban all handguns in any form...one of the foremost useless items ever created by man.. my honest opinion...

a handguns purpose is to shoot a person... dont give us canadians any long winded discussion about handguns actually increasing safety. thats a load of bull..(at least in canada)
the near majority of canadians do not own handguns and we have very few problems with them..

the real problem of course (and this should be abvious to anyone) is the blackmarket supply and aquisition of hand guns...

cant imagine how people who sell these guns sleep at night..

anyway...BAN THE HANDGUNS...YEAH FTW!

09-13-2007, 05:26 PM	#1
D_LaMz Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 446	After recent stabbing politican wants a gun ban http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...0912.wstab0912 Gun ban needed, not school metal detectors: McGuinty KAREN HOWLETT AND JEFF GRAY Globe and Mail Update September 12, 2007 at 1:06 PM EDT Ontario Liberal Leader Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday that he does not want to see the provinces' schools resort to installing metal detectors and having uniformed security officers patrol the halls in the wake of Tuesday's fatal stabbing at a Toronto high school. Such a move, he said, would amount to the Americanization of schools in Ontario. “I see that as an absolute last resort,” Mr. McGuinty told reporters during an election campaign stop. Instead, he said, Ontario needs to distinguish itself from the United States by imposing an outright ban on hand guns. “Let's ban handguns in Ontario,” he said. “Let's ban handguns across the country. Let's declare war against handguns.” A 16-year-old Scarborough youth was stabbed to death on Tuesday on a walkway leading from Winston Churchill Collegiate Institute. The teen's death comes four months after the shooting death of teenager Jordan Manners, placing the violence that has plagued Toronto front-and-centre in the provincial election campaign. NDP Leader Howard Hampton blamed the Liberal government for failing to provide enough money for schools and municipalities for police. “Schools do not have enough money to look after children at risk,” Mr. Hampton said. “...You can't have kids being shot in school, being stabbed in the school ground. Schools need to have enough supervisors. They need to have strategies to deal with kids, particularly teenagers who are high risk. That's not happening, despite the fact that Dalton McGuinty promised to fix the school funding formula.” He also said that, until the government fixes the problems created when Queen's Park “downloaded” various responsibilities like some social programs onto municipalities, local governments won't be able to afford to hire more police. Mr. McGuinty, who was confronted before the press conference by a protester from the Ontario Taxpayers' Federation dressed as Pinocchio, said there are other ways the province can ensure that schools are safe and “sanctuaries for our kids.” Flanked by firefighters, nurses and other public-sector workers, he said the Liberals, if re-elected, would put in place safe-school teams, consisting of police working with school officials and social workers, he said. As part of the Liberal Party's 'stronger, safe schools' policy, he said, additional resources have been provided to schools to hire more vice-principals to provide additional supervision. :canadastan:

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09-13-2007, 05:33 PM	#3
~~ArmedDrunk&Angry~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 6,969	But if it was a knife that killed him we should clearly ban swords to prevent some kind of arms race that will result in our children carrying halberds to school to defend themselves. Metal Detectors ? I have a very sharp knife, 2 actually, that wouldn't be detected by metal detector so if I had reason to stab someone that wouldn't help, and neither would an increased amount of hall monitors. Do they have a lot of the "Stop Snitching" T-shirts in Canada ?

09-13-2007, 05:36 PM	#4
SiN\|ScarFace Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,503	Nanada.

09-13-2007, 06:41 PM	#8
~~ExOps_Mercenary~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 126	guns can't kill people the bullets do the killing. sure you can beat someone to death with a gun it is fun (i have to much time on my hands in the middle east plus i'm not suppose to be there anyways) crazy am i, i would say so. but really a gun triggers the bullet to fire the bullet hits the person and kills them or hurts them or if your a crappy shot you miss, lol. also us Americans have the right to bare arms even if we are assholes. early laws are the right ones because the government cared back then.

09-13-2007, 06:56 PM	#10
[R-DEV]IronTaxi PR Developer Join Date: May 2006 Canada Location: Alliston Posts: 3,397	i totally agree...ban all handguns in any form...one of the foremost useless items ever created by man.. my honest opinion... a handguns purpose is to shoot a person... dont give us canadians any long winded discussion about handguns actually increasing safety. thats a load of bull..(at least in canada) the near majority of canadians do not own handguns and we have very few problems with them.. the real problem of course (and this should be abvious to anyone) is the blackmarket supply and aquisition of hand guns... cant imagine how people who sell these guns sleep at night.. anyway...BAN THE HANDGUNS...YEAH FTW!

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