After recent stabbing politican wants a gun ban

[[R-DEV]IronTaxi]

Brilliant!!!

Originally Posted by ArmedDrunk&Angry

I have the answer.
Call out the national guard and for 5 days everyone will give up their rights and allow the government to search and confiscate all weapons.
Anyone with illegal weapons will be arrested on the spot and allowed a hearing to prove their innocence.
There might be some shooting by the militias and some gangs but that is what Apache gunships are for.

Just 1 business week and then we can all be safe knowing that the government has collected all the weapons in the country and now only the police will have guns.
Men can be men again and beat each other down with their fists with no fear of the loser pullling his gat out and popping a cap.

Women probably won't be any better off but at least they won't be shot after being raped.

Then, knowing that our government has protected us, we can all live happily ever after.

[Hardtman]

Originally Posted by The_motivator

I don't know many women who carry and are trained in the safe use of pistols that have been raped recently. Do you?

A .38 snubbie is a lot more of a deterrent than a can of OC. When you spray an attacker, and scream for help... then no one comes... you'll probably die when he comes back with his buddies.

When you spray an attacker with OC and the wind direction changes (it's happened to cops before), and you catch it in your own face, you're just as disabled as your attacker.

When you point a gun at a perp and put a round center mass that knocks him on his ass, or even simply pull it on him, you become a hard target. OC spray and pepper spray can be overcome by a fit of rage, it's been done before.

What do you do when the OC fails? Bend over and take it?

And what would be if the attacker had a gun? Since he'd be the one who takes the first step he will be aiming at the woman so that she doesn't have a chance of putting her weapon to use.
A handheld taser would make a far better mean of defense than Pepperspray, although I guess they are quite costly.
I'd say the best way to help women to protect themselves from assaults would be a government-sponsored (or at least supported) program that gives every woman the opportunity to partake in a self-defense (partly martial arts and partly psychological) course.
Here in germany quite a few schools offer a free self-defense course specifically for girls and women, and from what I hear they are taught useful things there.

[Killer-Ape]

How about a high-voltage teaser gun? One specially made for self-defence (more juice then the one cops use) I know it can bring down a 120kg male pretty fast unlike pepper spray that just pisses him off. I must agree with Iron Taxi.. Guns hold to much unnecessary deadly force.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

The woman wants a gun. She read that NY has the toughest gun laws in the nation and yet people still get killed with illegal guns all the time.
You can quote stats until you are blue in the face but we want to protect ourselves from the threat that exists right now, which is criminals with illegal guns.
A gun ban would not affect illegal gun owners so it would do little to limit gun crime although it would push up the black market price.
Of course, since Tyrone needs to have a gat to get respect, he will simply rob people the old fashioned way until he gets enough money to buy his now very expensive but no less avaialable illegal gun.
The answer to violent crime is execution.
The recividism rate of executed rapists and murderers is 0.0%