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View Poll Results: what dictator
adolf hitler 19 31.15%
stalin 3 4.92%
kim jong il 2 3.28%
castro 28 45.90%
saddam 3 4.92%
mussolini 2 3.28%
franco 3 4.92%
idi amin 1 1.64%
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:52 PM   #31

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"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I didn't speak up;

Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I didn't speak up;

Then they came for the union members, but I wasn't a union member, so l didn't speak up;

Then they came for the Catholics, but I wasn't a Catholic, so I didn't speak up;

And then they came for me, and by then there was nobody left to speak up for me."

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Old 08-29-2007, 06:14 PM   #32

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ok guys dont get this locked i want to see who wins !! i chose hittler cause im german( all my family would be there ) and im not a jew.
Well there you go. The world wondered how a nation as civilized and refined as Germany could allow themselves to be lead down the path of destruction and murder. You just showed us how...."it ain't me so carry on with mass murder in my name" Man being German and knowing the facts, aught to be the very reason you'd reject whats been universally and historically excepted as the crime of the century.

Btw, half my family is German too and they weren't Jews either, but still got devastated by the war. Most of them got stuck between Stalin and Hitler and were just never heard from again. Statistically* 1,810,000 civilians 7,503,000 total...10% dude!...and that don't include the German Jews. So Fish you would have had a 10-1 chance you'd have died as well.



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Old 08-29-2007, 06:19 PM   #33

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Yeah... pretty ridiculous there are any votes for Hitler. But hey, it's cool for him to commit genocide as long as I'm not targeted... yet.

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Old 08-29-2007, 06:51 PM   #34

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I think it's silly that people are getting pissed off over people's answers to a no-win hypothetical. For example, if someone asked me what my preferred method for killing my self would be, my answer would be, "I don't plan on killing myself." But thats not the question. Similarly, the question is not, "Would you like to live under a dictator?", but the subtext, "If you had to live under a dictator, which one would afford you the best chance to survive and thrive?"

That being said, I voted for Hitler. As I'm a WASP (well, a WASA) of Germanic stock, had it not been for WW2 I think that regime would have afforded me the best opportunity to thrive. I could have been PC and said "Idi Amin", but that would have been a lie.

As it stands, this poll seemed doomed at the start.


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Old 08-29-2007, 08:02 PM   #35

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had it not been for WW2 I think that regime would have afforded me the best opportunity to thrive.
The War is the main part of the package Doan.

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Old 08-29-2007, 10:05 PM   #36
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Similarly, the question is not, "Would you like to live under a dictator?", but the subtext, "If you had to live under a dictator, which one would afford you the best chance to survive and thrive?"
No. The question is "If you had to live under a dictator, which would it be?" The purely self interested criteria you've provided were never explicitly or implicitly contained in the original question. Whenever somebody is presented with more than one option, the choice they make defines them as a person. Whether they wanted to make a choice or not. The fact is, those who chose Hitler chose him over alternative options, such as Castro.

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That being said, I voted for Hitler. As I'm a WASP (well, a WASA) of Germanic stock, had it not been for WW2 I think that regime would have afforded me the best opportunity to thrive.
Would have paid taxes to Hitler? Would you have served for him after he introduced conscription in 1935?

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I could have been PC and said "Idi Amin", but that would have been a lie.
I'm not sure what you think makes Idi Amin the "PC" choice. But if you think the problem with Hitler as a choice is that it's not "PC", you're wrong.


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Old 08-29-2007, 10:12 PM   #37

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Uh, you can calm down Wasteland, the question is what dictator would you RATHER be living under, not what dictator would you CHOOSE to live under.

I could tell you I'd RATHER not donate blood, but that I still CHOOSE to.

Anyway, this question is going to take a bit of thinking for me.

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Old 08-29-2007, 10:36 PM   #38
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Ummmm...... what's your point? "Which would you rather" and "If forced to make the choice, which would you choose" are the exact same thing.

And I'm rarely not calm. Even when angry. Now's no exception. If you have an argument to make as to why choosing Hitler is morally defensible, do so. But failed attempts at semantics arguments are worthless to me.


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Old 08-29-2007, 10:41 PM   #39

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I have no problem with people choosing Hitler. So long as they admit that it's because they're a morally corrupt bastard when they do it. I chose Castro myself, that old guy makes me laugh.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:46 PM   #40

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Ummmm...... what's your point? "Which would you rather" and "If forced to make the choice, which would you choose" are the exact same thing.
No, they're not. Rather is based on what would make you happier. I'd rather not donate blood, but I choose to. I'd rather not come into this thread to defend people who voted for Hitler and get into an argument with you, but I chose to. If you can't see the distinction between what you choose as opposed to what makes you happy, YOU'RE the selfish one.

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