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Old 08-23-2007, 05:59 PM   #21

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Old 08-23-2007, 06:01 PM   #22
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:02 PM   #23

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Er, what you see and what you don't see depends on your blacklist in ABP/AB. If you didn't globally block google ads (I'm assuming that's what they are here), that's what you'll get.

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Old 08-23-2007, 06:03 PM   #24

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Meh,I couldn't be bother to block ads,they don't really interfere.


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Old 08-23-2007, 06:29 PM   #25
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I'm sure they do as studies have shown but that doesn't mean we need to dumb down the society because some people are too busy or too stupid to raise their children to know the difference between right and wrong.
Actually, I'm not aware of a single study that suggests violent video games cause any increase in violent behavior amongst its consumers, though I know many studies have set out to show this, and failed. There have, however, been many studies showing that violence in TV and movies can increase violent behavior, possibly because of the passive, hypnotic nature of the consumption of these forms of media. Because participants in video games are active, they are more able to filter the information and maintain a sort of vigilance in their distinction between fantasy and reality.


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we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:33 PM   #26
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No,

I have played war since i can remember,

i have airsoft wars with my neighbors,

I played all the GTA games,

Ive played War games since this year on my PC.


Ive been mad at people but the worst ive ever done was say "i hope you fall into a pit of hot oil"


Ive never even been in a fight.



There are just some messed kids whose parents dont want to believe that they are insane and blame everything on music,movies,games
I've been in a fair number of fights, but I believe every one of them was righteous.

The only time I instigated the physical aspect of a fight was when I spat on a skinhead who back-hand slapped my Nigerian friend and told him "nobody's talking to you, n*gger" (and after that, the skinhead through the first punch, so he still kind of was the instigator).

Apart from that, it's just been a case of not backing down. I don't think that being in fights is a measure of violent behavior. The conduct of a person in getting into, and during a fight are measures of violent behavior. But it's important for a man to know when to fight, and not be afraid to. Otherwise they'll always be ruled by the fear of that possibility in all their contacts with other men.


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Old 08-23-2007, 06:38 PM   #27
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So people have the legal right to glorify rape and the kkk in text or speech, but not in pixels?
They don't. In the UK, that would fall under incitement to racial hatered laws at the very least, if not incitement to commit murder.

In the US it may be different, but here at least your right to express your thoughts ends when you stalk encouraging discrimination or organised violence, just like your right to swing your fist stops at my face. (Yes I'm generalising very very loosely, but there we go.)

Given that, I believe video games are a form of media like any other. I don't care about shooting people in video games, but I'd care when a game presented it as a morally correct option IRL or encouraged it in any other way - in the same way that it's fine to read a book on murders, but not to right articles in the press encouraging people to bump off their spouses.

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Old 08-23-2007, 07:04 PM   #28
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I'd say that for any rational person, violent video games are not going to cause any sort of problems. As others have said, most people can tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

However, I can foresee a problem when you expose young children to this kind of material. Young children are far less likely to clearly see the line between reality and fantasy, which is why they tend to have imaginary friends, etc. During that time when reality and fantasy are still forming for children, I think the introduction of violent mediums can be a bad thing.

Quite a few years back, I had a single mother with two boys living next door. I forget the exact age of the boys (I was under 8 years old at the time), but there was about a 4-5 year age gap between them, with the younger boy being a few years younger than me.

Anyways, the mother didn't limit their intake of violent media, so she'd basically be the mother you'd see buying GTA for her young kid. Because the older brother was quite a few years older, the younger brother was exposed to a lot of violent movies, etc. I mean this kid was 5 and watching Terminator and Alien and playing Mortal Kombat all day long.

It was fairly clear that the violent media had some kind of affect on him. He'd often chase us older kids around with a giant red plastic baseball bat, or the nearest stick he could find, if you didn't want to play his game. He also freaked my mother out once, because he said "Lets play serial killer and kill our mothers". Um, ya, not normal behavior for a 5 year old.

He was perhaps even younger, I don't remember tbh. I moved when I was 8, so all these memories are from when I was 8 or younger, and he was a few years younger than me.

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Old 08-23-2007, 07:32 PM   #29

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I'd say that for any rational person, violent video games are not going to cause any sort of problems. As others have said, most people can tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

However, I can foresee a problem when you expose young children to this kind of material. Young children are far less likely to clearly see the line between reality and fantasy, which is why they tend to have imaginary friends, etc. During that time when reality and fantasy are still forming for children, I think the introduction of violent mediums can be a bad thing.

Quite a few years back, I had a single mother with two boys living next door. I forget the exact age of the boys (I was under 8 years old at the time), but there was about a 4-5 year age gap between them, with the younger boy being a few years younger than me.

Anyways, the mother didn't limit their intake of violent media, so she'd basically be the mother you'd see buying GTA for her young kid. Because the older brother was quite a few years older, the younger brother was exposed to a lot of violent movies, etc. I mean this kid was 5 and watching Terminator and Alien and playing Mortal Kombat all day long.

It was fairly clear that the violent media had some kind of affect on him. He'd often chase us older kids around with a giant red plastic baseball bat, or the nearest stick he could find, if you didn't want to play his game. He also freaked my mother out once, because he said "Lets play serial killer and kill our mothers". Um, ya, not normal behavior for a 5 year old.

He was perhaps even younger, I don't remember tbh. I moved when I was 8, so all these memories are from when I was 8 or younger, and he was a few years younger than me.

The single parent has everything to do with that behavior, esp a boy without a strong father figure.

I had step siblings who were older by far (I was elementary age and they were high school) and we would play violent video games all the time. If I ran around acting stupid my father would have corrected such behavior swiftly, but he never had to do that because he raised me right. Mothers have a harder time trying to control adolescent boys.

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Old 08-23-2007, 07:36 PM   #30
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It was fairly clear that the violent media had some kind of affect on him. He'd often chase us older kids around with a giant red plastic baseball bat, or the nearest stick he could find, if you didn't want to play his game. He also freaked my mother out once, because he said "Lets play serial killer and kill our mothers". Um, ya, not normal behavior for a 5 year old.
The former example is certainly disturbing. But the latter one may be benign (strange though it may seem). As a child seeking the approval of his older brother, he was probably conditioned to think these "disturbing" descriptions of violent intent were "cool" and "edgy", a character trait that brought his brother's approval. It's quite likely that this was just an act.


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