Interesting argument about global warming

[[R-DEV]Katarn]

http://www.break.com/index/tough-to-argue.html

Hope this wasn't posted before.

[ryan d ale]

Sounds convincing as a theory but as an arguement worth funding? No.
The human race is destined for disaster - NO technology we come up with can stop global warming. The damage is done and if the technology did or will exist it will take too long to implement.

[[R-DEV]Katarn]

How is the damage done? CO2 levels drop every year based on the tilt of the earth towards the sun - a couple decades with half the emissions we have now would bring the earth back to normal levels of both temperature and CO2 in the atmosphere....

[ryan d ale]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Katarn

How is the damage done? CO2 levels drop every year based on the tilt of the earth towards the sun - a couple decades with half the emissions we have now would bring the earth back to normal levels of both temperature and CO2 in the atmosphere....

o.k I don't know what to think about that especially with the headlines in one of yesterdays papers about Oil and how it will START to run out in four years. That might be close enough for mainstream electric cars and achieve that 1/2 of the current emissions but it's certainly not possible before an Oil rush.

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

The true tragedy is that we will do all the things to stop it, get all the negatives, ( the clip failed to include the wars that would result from the depression that would result from the regulations ) and then the planet would warm according to schedule.
In the end millions suffer and die only to have billions follow on.
It's a ridiculous pipe dream to believe we could cut emissions world wide by 50% by 2030 or 2050 w/o a single world government to enforce the regulations.
Personally I don't see anyone who fits the bill as ruler of the earth.

[[R-CON]Wolfe]

There is one flaw in his theory.

He assumes that in column A, the worst possible outcome is cost and world economic depression but the flaw is that he failed to take the outcome one step further. What is the logical end result for a world in a global depression, especially a world of people who have the technological capability to burn the surface to a crisp? Doesn't that make the worst case scenario of column A just as undesirable as column B?

A bit far fetched? Maybe.. but as you read this now, aren't we on the brink of a global struggle with a very real nuclear outcome potential that is partially based on the control of the world's economic lifeblood?

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

It's not far fetched at all.
Youre' right, he didn't carry down the costs from the top left box.
Hungry people with guns soon get their own way.
But no matter how many Youtube videos there are global warming will not derail the economy.
At least not based on these clowns presentations.
If the crops all dry up because sunspot activity makes it 15degree F warmer, then all the hybrid cars in the world won't make a drop of difference.
But assuming that the world doesn't end in 2012 we do have to deal with the problem of waste heat and pollution.
My question is, going forward 50 years, how do you enforce these measures internationally ?

[[R-CON]Wolfe]

Good ol' fashion bribery. Like the way the U.S. is practically giving away nuclear power technology to China so their 1.3 billion people no longer use coal burning as their primary source of energy.

[[R-CON]Desertfox]

Any chance the sun is just getting hotter

[Expendable Grunt]

No, that isn't going to happen for a few thousand years.

I did some research on the ice ageS (more than one) that earth has gone through in its life time. Draw yourselves a sine wave (A squigly line...). At the troughs of the wave, write ICE AGE. At the peaks, write HEAT AGE (I don't have a good enough name for it, yet). Now, as you can see, the earth goes through these cycles. Before dinos, there was an ice age. The earth slowly warmed up until in the Cretacious period we had a tropical, jungle earth. Then it cooled. We had another ice age. Somewhere in there humans (or atleast our simian ancestors, I can't recall at the moment) rose to dominance and survived the ice. Earth began to warm again. Whether or not our technology is helping it to happen faster or not, the point is fairly moot: The earth has hot/cold cycles since time immortal, and will continue to have them if we want to or not.

Personally I'm for cutting emissions and stuff because it smells like CRAP and makes the sky look like SH*T and that pisses me off.