Scientology...opinions.....

[[R-DEV]GeZe]

Originally Posted by DirtyHarry88

Is the main thing with Scientology not just using tools as they're called to help improve different aspects of your life etc?

I wasn't defending Scientology... (hint hint I'm an atheist)

their beliefs:

Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy. Xenu (sometimes Xemu) is introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living. The alien souls continue to do this today, causing a variety of physical ill-effects in modern-day humans. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and the advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating them and neutralizing their ill effects.

[EagleEyeLG]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]GeZe

I see no difference between Scientology and any other religion.

I must agree.

[DirtyHarry88]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]GeZe

I wasn't defending Scientology... (hint hint I'm an atheist)

their beliefs:

See I refuse to believe TC and JT believe this, I'll opt for the 'they just use the life tools' option.

[geek81]

That a maker is required for anything that is made is a lesson Sir Isaac Newton was able to teach forcefully to an atheist-scientist friend of his. Sir Isaac had an accomplished artisan fashion for him a small scale model of our solar system which was to be put in a room in Newton’s home when completed. The assignment was finished and installed on a large table. The workman had done a very commendable job, simulating not only the various sizes of the planets and their relative proximities, but also so constructing the model that everything rotated and orbited when a crank was turned. It was an interesting, even fascinating work, as you can image, particularly to anyone schooled in the sciences.

Newton’s atheist-scientist friend came by for a visit. Seeing the model, he was naturally intrigued, and proceeded to examine it with undisguised admiration for the high quality of the workmanship. ‘My! What an exquisite thing this is!’ he exclaimed. ‘Who made it?’ Paying little attention to him, Sir Isaac answered, ‘Nobody.’

Stopping his inspection, the visitor turned and said: ‘Evidently you did not understand my question. I asked who made this. Newton, enjoying himself immensely no doubt, replied in a still more serious tone. ‘Nobody. What you see just happened to assume the form it now has.’ ‘You must think I am a fool!’ the visitor retorted heatedly, ‘Of course somebody made it, and he is a genius, and I would like to know who he is.’

Newton then spoke to his friend in a polite yet firm way: ‘This thing is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such an incongruous conclusion?’

[Kensei]

Originally Posted by geek81

That a maker is required for anything that is made is a lesson Sir Isaac Newton was able to teach forcefully to an atheist-scientist friend of his. Sir Isaac had an accomplished artisan fashion for him a small scale model of our solar system which was to be put in a room in Newton’s home when completed. The assignment was finished and installed on a large table. The workman had done a very commendable job, simulating not only the various sizes of the planets and their relative proximities, but also so constructing the model that everything rotated and orbited when a crank was turned. It was an interesting, even fascinating work, as you can image, particularly to anyone schooled in the sciences.

Newton’s atheist-scientist friend came by for a visit. Seeing the model, he was naturally intrigued, and proceeded to examine it with undisguised admiration for the high quality of the workmanship. ‘My! What an exquisite thing this is!’ he exclaimed. ‘Who made it?’ Paying little attention to him, Sir Isaac answered, ‘Nobody.’

Stopping his inspection, the visitor turned and said: ‘Evidently you did not understand my question. I asked who made this. Newton, enjoying himself immensely no doubt, replied in a still more serious tone. ‘Nobody. What you see just happened to assume the form it now has.’ ‘You must think I am a fool!’ the visitor retorted heatedly, ‘Of course somebody made it, and he is a genius, and I would like to know who he is.’

Newton then spoke to his friend in a polite yet firm way: ‘This thing is but a puny imitation of a much grander system whose laws you know, and I am not able to convince you that this mere toy is without a designer and maker; yet you profess to believe that the great original from which the design is taken has come into being without either designer or maker! Now tell me by what sort of reasoning do you reach such an incongruous conclusion?’

^most people who love physics (it seems to me) eventually come to the conclusion that the order of the universe has a designer. With this program we live in and all it's perfection how can you not see something made it? Have you ever had a Blue Screen of Death IRL? Neither have I. It's way too complex of a machine to have just happened IMO. Some people don't see it though, and that's fine.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]GeZe

I see no difference between Scientology and any other religion.

ignorance is bliss.. stupidly is just stupid.

[[R-DEV]Jaymz]

Chick Corea is one? Thankfully I only care for his music anyway......

[[R-DEV]Gaz]

They aint got me yet

No doubt they'll come in their little spaceship DC-8s soon though and shove me down a volcano.

[Thunder]

im scared of this thread,

that video i watched last night freaked me out. i think im gonna pay them a visit and ask them whats going on.

[vassili]

this is one of the rare things I just dont get at all.
in other beliefs I can connect to them on some level but what they are saying it total bollux it doesnt make any sence
if you listen to what the guy says it realy doesnt make sence none of it.