You Brits have a big problem on your hands

lonelyjew · 01-16-2007, 01:46 PM

Someone posted this link on another forum I go to and these videos are disturbing to say the least. I've only watched the first and to see blatant radical Islam being preached nearly openly in a high profile Mosque. These people are not only driving a wedge between the Islamic people and everyone else but are going as far as preaching violence against the "Kuffaar"(non believers). Now, lets not turn this thread into an anti-Islamic thread because that is not my purpose. My purpose is only to say that these preachers are a huge problem because they not only prevent tolerance and the unification of Western and Islamic peoples but they drive a wedge in between us and seperate us even further.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...er_Mosque&only

edit*
I think the vids have been removed from youtube so here's another link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ercover+mosque

JellyBelly · 01-16-2007, 01:52 PM

Well the links broken. But yes, we do have a problem over here with radicals. A few have been deported because of their views. Theres no real ways to stop it, short of closing Mosques. Which isnt an option.

Darth.Skyline · 01-16-2007, 01:55 PM

Did anyone see the Dispatches program last night on Channel 4 ? its really really mad, people go into a mosque to pray and the imam just calls christians and jews a bunch of Kuffaars and then they walk out full of hate and brain washed, and they want to kill us....

Lugubrum · 01-16-2007, 02:06 PM

I only watched 4 minutes but I get too angry to watch further. It's better for everyone when those radicals leave the West and go live in a country which is closer to their views. I think also a couple of radicals islamists have been kicked out of The Netherlands some time ago so here is also that problem. I live in city with a big muslim population and I always wonder how many of them are radicals. The thing is, most groups of people live seperated from eachother: the multicultural society sounds nice on paper but is not working in reality.

[R-MOD]Wasteland · 01-16-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugubrum

the multicultural society sounds nice on paper but is not working in reality.

Ja OK Meneer Fortuin....

A multicultural liberal democracy would usually categorize this kind of language as incitement to violence, which is illegal.

So the problem lies in enforcement of the law. Not in multi-culturalism as a value.

Lugubrum · 01-16-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP*wasteland.soldier

Ja OK Meneer Fortuin....

A multicultural liberal democracy would usually categorize this kind of language as incitement to violence, which is illegal.

So the problem lies in enforcement of the law. Not in multi-culturalism as a value.

you mean Pim Fortuyn

[R-MOD]Wasteland · 01-16-2007, 04:34 PM

Oh yeah. Sorry, Fortuyn. I was living in Den Haag when all that was going on. Some of the people there are very tolerant. But others seem scarily xenophobic. Lots of people loved hating on the Turks.

Lugubrum · 01-16-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP*wasteland.soldier

Oh yeah. Sorry, Fortuyn. I was living in Den Haag when all that was going on. Some of the people there are very tolerant. But others seem scarily xenophobic. Lots of people loved hating on the Turks.

I live in Den Haag and I was on the streets after he got shot, very hostile atmosphere there was. But did you like Den Haag?

Btw, there are reasons why Turks are not very populair, that is all I can say about it.

Sorry for a little offtopic...

[T]BludShoT · 01-16-2007, 05:13 PM

They'd love to take over the world, that's their goal.

DirtyHarry88 · 01-16-2007, 05:15 PM

I find it hilarious that they think it's plausible to take over.

01-16-2007, 01:46 PM	#1
lonelyjew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,762	You Brits have a big problem on your hands Someone posted this link on another forum I go to and these videos are disturbing to say the least. I've only watched the first and to see blatant radical Islam being preached nearly openly in a high profile Mosque. These people are not only driving a wedge between the Islamic people and everyone else but are going as far as preaching violence against the "Kuffaar"(non believers). Now, lets not turn this thread into an anti-Islamic thread because that is not my purpose. My purpose is only to say that these preachers are a huge problem because they not only prevent tolerance and the unification of Western and Islamic peoples but they drive a wedge in between us and seperate us even further. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...er_Mosque&only edit* I think the vids have been removed from youtube so here's another link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ercover+mosque
lonelyjew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,762	Thanks luizinhuu for the find People are hopelessly ignorant of their own ignorance. -Me
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01-16-2007, 01:52 PM	#2
JellyBelly Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The United States of England Posts: 1,310	Well the links broken. But yes, we do have a problem over here with radicals. A few have been deported because of their views. Theres no real ways to stop it, short of closing Mosques. Which isnt an option.
	[RGG] - Pte.Phillips - www.rggsquad.co.uk - Arma ftw Really Gay Guy America was a tad late into the First World War. They redeemed themself's and came in slightly sooner in the Second. Now they seem determined to start the Third.

01-16-2007, 01:55 PM	#3
Darth.Skyline Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,122	Did anyone see the Dispatches program last night on Channel 4 ? its really really mad, people go into a mosque to pray and the imam just calls christians and jews a bunch of Kuffaars and then they walk out full of hate and brain washed, and they want to kill us....
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01-16-2007, 04:34 PM	#7
[R-MOD]Wasteland Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,673	Oh yeah. Sorry, Fortuyn. I was living in Den Haag when all that was going on. Some of the people there are very tolerant. But others seem scarily xenophobic. Lots of people loved hating on the Turks.
	Originally Posted by: ArmedDrunk&Angry we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance Originally Posted by: [R-MOD]dunehunter don't mess with wasteland, a scary guy will drag you into an alleyway and rape you with a baseballbat

01-16-2007, 05:13 PM	#9
[T]BludShoT Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,437	They'd love to take over the world, that's their goal.
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01-16-2007, 02:06 PM	#4
Lugubrum Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 943	I only watched 4 minutes but I get too angry to watch further. It's better for everyone when those radicals leave the West and go live in a country which is closer to their views. I think also a couple of radicals islamists have been kicked out of The Netherlands some time ago so here is also that problem. I live in city with a big muslim population and I always wonder how many of them are radicals. The thing is, most groups of people live seperated from eachother: the multicultural society sounds nice on paper but is not working in reality.

01-16-2007, 05:15 PM	#10
DirtyHarry88 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dundee Posts: 1,493	I find it hilarious that they think it's plausible to take over.

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