Real life scenario

[Cassius]

The recent war outbreak made me think. In your opinion how much time should pass before a past real life scenario is realized in a mod, or even game ?

[Tirak]

You're talking about Russia right, or should I not speculate? Anyway, I say none, since the mod is just a game.

[Spec_Operator]

:/ I hope the conflict will not let enough people die to be important enough for any game.

[Dr2B Rudd]

Interesting question...

In a way I'd rather some maps weren't of actual places e.g. Basrah for this reason that the conflict is still ongoing, But I suppose its how you view the game. imo, PR is a test of logic, teamwork and tactics and isn't about the role playing experience- so I think about the real world counterpart very little when I'm ingame.

Which is why ofc the MEC was a clever creation, relating to real world politics yet the game is apolitical since the MEC do not exist.

And that kind of 'could be real' atmosphere is better because it avoids these problems.

So, If you are indeed talking about teh Georgian Crisis, then I guess if a map came out with Russia fighting an unspecified Eastern European country I wouldn't have a problem. But a clear emulation over a tense situation probably isn't a good idea.

[Thermis]

IMO I think the whole insurgency mode of PR is a little close to home considering we're still fighting that war. I'd prefer if it would just stick to hypothetical situations in the near future like the original BF2. Wars that are plausible but haven't happened yet.

[lord rifle]

good topic.
the way i see it is that it IS important to be sensitive, especially with something like war. for that reason alot of media depicting the truth of war -ripped apart burned american bodies etc- is not available to us.
however, the other issue here, besides sensitivity, that is so important is censorship. although sensitivity is important to respect, i fell it is MORE important to show EVERYTHING as rule. we are all paying for the war with our taxes so we should have FULL access to any amount of media depicting the horrors of war.
it is worse to have censorship of war than a lack of sensitivity. full availability of uncesored war media it must be the way forward. or else we live in lal al landf. it is not fair that [our] men kill on behalf of others yet they/we cannot access their expressions and and minfestations of war.
i know it is harsh, but that life and war

[HunterMed]

Indeed a good topic...

I think gaming war games is about roleplaying... Why are there so many games sucessful that simulate recent or real events.
Cod4, all other COds..

Most people want to play a tough Marine.

In my opinion when I think of it that suicide cars are already existing in PR it makes me feel uncomfortable.
It is good that the BF2 engine doesnt allow too real graphics. But what if it has the graphic of a Crysis or whatever?
What is the next step?
People with C4 strapped around their chest?
I am sure if people from Basrah could see the map and suicide cars etc they would find it pretty sick that people from the age from 12-30 are playing this.
When I think of it I find it sick also...


Very difficult.
But the trend goes to more realistic war games and movies with recent events.

[lord rifle]

what role does censorship play in ths, Hunter?
it just that then ANY voilence should be disallowed in video games if war voilence in video games is censored.

isnt there individuals who actually have fought, and maybe got some confirmed kills, in Al Basrah whom also play PR?
Im really interested in their perspectives

[HunterMed]

Yea I bring up the general violence question.

Difficult one - I simply dont know how real a game should get when it comes to killing human beings.

If I see reports about post-war stress etc I dont want to get them that real.

[Cassius]

With none the problem would be you might have people popping up in the mod/game online who were personally involved or even have lost relatives in that conflict. Though you could argue its their choice to partecipate in the game/mod or not.

Yah I was talkin about the outbreak between Russia and Georgia but I did not want the thread to revolve around that topic, seen as how people from both Russia and georgia posted on a related thread about an ongoing war they are involved in and understandably being quite emotional about it.

But I guess the only reason Peter didnt tell peter with an american pronunciation where he can shove it in a thread during wwII was because the technique was not avaiable at the time.
But I do think that Private Ryan came out some 40 years after the war was because hollywood was being sensible about it, they didnt resist to make war movies right after the war, but showed a rather romantizized version of it, rather than showing the jhonsons how their son got splattered all over the beach.