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Old 08-10-2008, 02:58 PM   #101

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

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They should use a combination of a m16 and an ak47
the stoping power and reliability of a m16 with the accuracy of an ak47

And you get the worst rifle in the world...

Phail.

Other way around, not phail...

G3s are fine but i'd still like to see something else...
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:13 PM   #102
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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

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AK-103



Cause 7,62x39 is classic caliber for middle eastern armed forces.
My choice, also. Most of the AK users in the ME never made the 5.45mm switch since they were already producing their own 7.62 x 39mm ammunition and AK-47/AKM variants. It didn't make logistical sense for them to make the switch, and it still doesn't. Also, the AK-103 does not use any wooden furniture; timber is not an abundant resource in the ME, and though the average humidity is lower there, heat is still not very kind to wood from a maintenance perspective, especially when it comes to firearms maintenance. License producing AK-103s would be easy to transition to for manufacturers, operators and maintainers as well as offering some improvement over the original.
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:58 PM   #103

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

Rough summary of models

YouTube - Kalashnikov by izhmash

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AK-47 1948--51, 7.62 × 39 mm
AK-47 1952, 7.62 × 39 mm
RPK 7.62 × 39 mm
AKM 7.62 × 39 mm
AKMS 7.62 × 39 mm
AKS 5.45x39 mm
AK-74 series 5.45 x 39 mm
AK-101 5.56x45 mm
AK-103 7.62x39
AK-107 5.45 x 39 mm
AK-108 5.56 x 45 mm

The sa80 PDW I think


My personal choice for PDW, I think its based off the m16. Looks like the rifle equalivant of a sawn off shotgun

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Old 08-10-2008, 04:01 PM   #104

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

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My personal choice for PDW, I think its based off the m16. Looks like the rifle equalivant of a sawn off shotgun
That's a hand cannon, not a PDW!

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Old 08-10-2008, 04:11 PM   #105

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

don't involve any russian main weapons for the mec. i'm still hoping for a russian faction

late model steyr aug with ironsisght/picatinny and custom scope if they've moved to 5.56 ammo (longer barrel of course).

in use in:
morocco
oman
pakistan
saudi arabia
tunisia
etc

or sig 556, this in 7.62x51 (like the g3). should of course have different optics than in the picture for rifleman.


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Old 08-10-2008, 04:19 PM   #106

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

I would like to see the Ak-103 used by the MEC faction. It has the same 7.62 x 39mm round as the AK-47, with the polyurethane furniture seen in the newer AK models. A good balance I think.
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Old 08-10-2008, 04:28 PM   #107

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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

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They should use a combination of a m16 and an ak47
the stoping power and reliability of a m16 with the accuracy of an ak47
I agree with Chiz. This is a totally irrational statement. What you want is the stopping power/realiability of an AK47 and a M16's muzzle velocity/accuracy.

What you described would be a gun that takes forever to clean, jams a fair amount, does poor damage and has fair accuracy.


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Old 08-10-2008, 04:34 PM   #108

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If I had to pick a replacement, I'd be AK-103. But I'm glad I don't have to as a scoped g3 is so cool. In PR, G3 is used in deserts only, where the recoil is not as important as weapon damage and accuracy. And in bunkers, I find the full auto to be more useful than burst mode. Too bad the ironsights obstruct the surroundings of the target so much.. that's the only complain I have.
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Old 08-10-2008, 04:58 PM   #109

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No, we're sticking with the G3 as the main arm of the MEC. Hell, they *just* added a G3 UGL and a G3 marksman variant.



It's not an SMG, it's a PDW

Well ya. I could careless. I was just explaining in a sarcastic obvious hypothetical way. (As per the way the thread ask.)
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:07 PM   #110
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Re: Hypothetical Situation. What Rifle would you like to the Mec's G3 be replaced wit

I vote for KH2002, several ME countries have formed a military coalition. Now Iran is NOT going to oppose them in order to ally with the US is it?

Seriously, which rift is bigger:
Arab/Persian or mid-east/USA considering we are dealing with a united mid-east, not isolated countries to pick off one by one?

Would Iran take advantage of a conflict between the US and a different ME country to hurt the US or to hurt another ME country? Now consider the situation if those other ME countries have already formed a military coalition, which would Iran back?

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