does the AK-47 suck as much in real life as it does in PR?

[=Romagnolo=]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

never seen that, take its a movie, is it any good?

but ye it is a pretty common fact of the AK-47 that a child can use it, and quite effectivly too...

It is a great movie IMO.


About the topic, watch this, they tell how powerful the AK is, but also its lack o precision:

YouTube - AK 47 vs M16

[[R-CON]Wolfe]

In PRv.75, the AK47 has a huge disadvantage in its recoil model. In fact, I'd argue that it's broken. Here's why:

M16 recoil:
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/1.8/1.8/0
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-1/1/1
ObjectTemplate.recoil.zoomModifier 0.6

AK47 recoil:
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceUp CRD_UNIFORM/3/3/0
ObjectTemplate.recoil.recoilForceLeftRight CRD_UNIFORM/-1.1/1.1/1
ObjectTemplate.recoil.zoomModifier 1

What does this mean? Per shot, the M16 rises 1.8 and the Ak47 rises 3.0 (nearly double). Now, that's about what you might expect, but it gets worse... see that zoom modifier? When you zoom, that value is multiplied by the rise. So zoomed, an m16's rise is only 1.08 while the ak47 remains at 3.

M16: 1.8 (non zoomed) * 0.6 (zoomed) = 1.08
Ak47: 3.0 (non zoomed) * 1.0 (zoomed) = 3.00

Technically speaking, every weapon should have LESS recoil while zoomed even if it doesn't have a scope, since theoretically you're holding the weapon more securely in a zoom/sight position than a ready position.

Hopefully we can fix this for PRv.8

[[R-DEV]OkitaMakoto]

Originally Posted by Conman51=US=

you know it was made in WW2...so dont expect it to be up to modern standards

Just after, hence the '47 :P

But yeah, its pretty hard to control in game, as IRL I would imagine. Lets hope it gets a little tlc[tender loving care] in .8 though

That and Lord Of War is a GREAT movie. Has the best intro ever. :P
YouTube - Lord of War intro - Bullet Cam

[Teek]

Lord of war is one of my favorite movies, a must watch

Spraying and praying is always true when a AK is on full auto.

[kf_reaper]

the AK-47 is better fit in suppressing fire in mass groups of troops. but an AK-47 is not good to use in a urban battle field. the rounds go throw walls and can kill civie. but the M16 it accurate "but in my book not the best weapon" is higher and the smaller rounds don't go throw walls and lower the chance of you hitting a civie or a friendly.

HK has that upper reservoir that can go on the M16

[Emnyron]

A properly maintained AK-47 is rather accurate.. Unthill you go full automatic..
Those are 7.62 rounds your blasting off, and they give quite the kick..

The gun does not suck Thread-Starter, You suck.

[Waaah_Wah]

Originally Posted by Conman51=US=

you know it was made in WW2...so dont expect it to be up to modern standards

Dont make me slap you with a history book...

[Waaah_Wah]

Originally Posted by =Romagnolo=

It is a great movie IMO.


About the topic, watch this, they tell how powerful the AK is, but also its lack o precision:

YouTube - AK 47 vs M16

No wonder he cant hit shit... He jerks the trigger like ... Well you get the idea

Oh and yeah, Lord Of War is a great movie.

[SGT.JOKER]

I honest to god hate the AK47. But when your in CQB theres a 75% if not 80% chance you'll winn that (from my expireince at least). Other then the fact it'll save you in CQB its a horrid weapon in my opinion.

[Conman51=US=]

Originally Posted by Waaah_Wah

Dont make me slap you with a history book...

lol what!?!?!?! ya i know the Ak was made 2 years AFTER WW2

iknow the m2 50 cal is good from WW2..but the AK for accuracy is blagh!!!

but cmon...what better from WW2 than now ( i know im goign to get shot down)