Su-25 Frogfoot Vs. A-10 Warthog - Page 3

Hardtman · 08-25-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Eddie Baker

The Frogfoot has a 30mm cannon, too, Hardtman; two of them, since the GSH-30-2 is a twin barreled weapon. They fire the same ammunition as the 2A42 cannon on the BMP-2/BTR-90 and 2A38M cannons on the 2S6M Tunguska, 30 x 165mm. For comparative purposes, the GAU-8 Avenger's cartridges are 30 x 173mm; the Bushmaster II on the Marines' EFV uses this ammunition as well.

The advantage to the GAU-8 Avenger is the high rate of fire, and the fact that the magazine for the weapon holds a thousand more rounds than the magazine on the Su-25 family if aircraft.

Ah,my bad then, somehow I still had 23mm in my mind.

Leo · 08-25-2007, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftdraw

It's the SU-39, not 29. 29 is a piston powered aerobatics plane

My mistake, got the numbers mixed up.

Also, in game the Su-25 shoots slightly lower than its aiming reticule thing.

Mekstizzle · 08-25-2007, 08:32 PM

I haven't tried it out. But since BF2 can only do certain rates of fire, and therefore PR has changed around the splash damage/normal damage to "simulate" the higher rate of fire, shouldn't that mean that the round count itself should be less?

For example. You have the A10 firing @ 900RPM in BF2, because that's the fastest it goes. So you increase the splash damage and the overall damage to make it seem like it's going faster (same goes for the sound) - Yet, it still has 1500 rounds. Which means that, in PR, it will end up having more than 1500 rounds. Get me? Basically, the A10 only really has a few seconds of fire. But in PR, it's much much more than a few seconds.

The same probably goes for all cannons that have had this "rate of fire" fix. If you get me. I'm not sure whether the ammo count has been taken into consideration. If I'm wrong then slap me silly.

[R-CON]77SiCaRiO77 · 08-25-2007, 09:36 PM

i think that PR should replace the su-25(iraki version, CAS only) with the su-39 (antitank-version) from armored fury

Cp · 08-25-2007, 09:43 PM

@Mekstizzle: I agree, The A10 in real life has a ROF of around 3900 rounds/minute and holds 1350 rounds, this means that the cannon can fire for 0,34 minutes or 20,7 seconds until its out of ammo (excluding overheating). translated to BF2/PR with a max ROF of 1800 that means that the A10 only should have about 620 rounds

[R-CON]77SiCaRiO77 · 08-25-2007, 09:54 PM

isnt the max rof 1700 ?

xW0LFx · 08-25-2007, 09:56 PM

Cp · 08-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Thanks wolf.
Updated previous post

Petey · 08-25-2007, 11:21 PM

soo your answer to my question is...the a-10 overpowers the frogfoot?

CareBear · 08-26-2007, 08:10 AM

the only reason the a-10 beat the frogfoot is because of the sound of the cannan :P nothing else

once u hear that and ur mec u like shit where the *uck are the migs >.<

08-25-2007, 09:43 PM	#25
Cp Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,319	@Mekstizzle: I agree, The A10 in real life has a ROF of around 3900 rounds/minute and holds 1350 rounds, this means that the cannon can fire for 0,34 minutes or 20,7 seconds until its out of ammo (excluding overheating). translated to BF2/PR with a max ROF of 1800 that means that the A10 only should have about 620 rounds
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	Last edited by Cp; 08-25-2007 at 10:05 PM.. Reason: Max ROF is 1800, not 900

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08-25-2007, 10:03 PM	#28
Cp Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,319	Thanks wolf. Updated previous post
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CareBear PR Beta Testing Team Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK- Brumtwn Posts: 1,800	the only reason the a-10 beat the frogfoot is because of the sound of the cannan :P nothing else once u hear that and ur mec u like shit where the *uck are the migs >.<
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08-25-2007, 08:32 PM	#23
Mekstizzle Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 887	I haven't tried it out. But since BF2 can only do certain rates of fire, and therefore PR has changed around the splash damage/normal damage to "simulate" the higher rate of fire, shouldn't that mean that the round count itself should be less? For example. You have the A10 firing @ 900RPM in BF2, because that's the fastest it goes. So you increase the splash damage and the overall damage to make it seem like it's going faster (same goes for the sound) - Yet, it still has 1500 rounds. Which means that, in PR, it will end up having more than 1500 rounds. Get me? Basically, the A10 only really has a few seconds of fire. But in PR, it's much much more than a few seconds. The same probably goes for all cannons that have had this "rate of fire" fix. If you get me. I'm not sure whether the ammo count has been taken into consideration. If I'm wrong then slap me silly.

08-25-2007, 09:36 PM	#24
[R-CON]77SiCaRiO77 PR Contributor Join Date: May 2006 Spain Posts: 3,689	i think that PR should replace the su-25(iraki version, CAS only) with the su-39 (antitank-version) from armored fury

08-25-2007, 09:54 PM	#26
[R-CON]77SiCaRiO77 PR Contributor Join Date: May 2006 Spain Posts: 3,689	isnt the max rof 1700 ?

08-25-2007, 11:21 PM	#29
Petey Join Date: Aug 2007 United States of America Location: Ramstein Airforce Base, Germany Posts: 257	soo your answer to my question is...the a-10 overpowers the frogfoot?

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