"ADOPT A NEWBIE" Program - Page 9

para_hjs · 01-02-2008, 09:06 PM

Like ante mentioned; experienced SL´s (i.e PR veterans of the SL community) should adopt one or two PR-beginners in the squads. This will hopefully make the PR-community stronger in a way.

kilroy0097 · 01-03-2008, 08:30 AM

As a long standing Veteran of BF2, BF2142 and POE2 with a smattering of FH2 under my belt I can't really call myself a noob in the typical sense but in PR I am absolutely a noob. So I did what any responsible serious modern combat FPS gamer should do, I read the manual and the Wiki before even joining my first PR server. I fancy myself as being rather adept at picking up new FPS games rather quickly and so coming into PR for the first time I went about familiarizing myself with the various unique parts of PR. Yes it took me a little while to figure out exactly which kit is used for what. I didn't exactly know how all the functions played out. Didn't understand why as a squad member I couldn't manually spot a target. Various sorts of things that are ingrained into the heads of many of us. We literally have to untrain ourselves in order to train ourselves for PR. While I certainly wouldn't in my wildest dreams attempt to fly a jet in PR until I've practiced on an empty server, I did test drive a Blackhawk and a Tank and an APC learning the hard way that not having the right kit means death. Learning how to be an SL was also rather daunting but I did get it after a while. Most of all is the frustration in not having a squad that is a teamwork kind of squad filled with pubbers that get it even less.

So not all noobs are simply idiots off the BF2 street expecting everything to be about the same. I knew it would be different coming in and I made certain to read up on it. I still had issues because honestly the learning curve in PR is huge. So please be patient to some of us who have started out new with PR 0.7. Some of us are indeed serious players and are trying our hardest to bring our skill into play in this new mod.

I have all sorts of questions to ask simply because I don't know what's supposed to be and what is a bug or an error that needs to be sorted out. So if I ask a question that seems obvious to most veteran players, please humor me.

Cheers.

Gyberg · 01-03-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kilroy0097

So not all noobs are simply idiots off the BF2 street expecting everything to be about the same. I knew it would be different coming in and I made certain to read up on it. I still had issues because honestly the learning curve in PR is huge. So please be patient to some of us who have started out new with PR 0.7. Some of us are indeed serious players and are trying our hardest to bring our skill into play in this new mod.

Good post! If you see my in a server dont be afraid to ask any questions! I will do my best to answer them!

T.Shepherd · 01-03-2008, 12:07 PM

I have been playing PR for a couple of weeks and finding it very interesting. I have been into flight sims for over 5 years now. My flight sim squad focuses on F15c with proper Air Force SOP and training, in fact one of our instructor pilots is a real ex-F15 instructor pilot and the training he conducts is very intense and challenging and modeled after the real thing.

The point is that I have been in the command and training staff since the beginning and have dealt with allot of new pilots and the challenges of training people on such complex subjects as proper SOP, ATC, BFM, ACM, and BFM to mention a few. Every person responds differently to varies forms of instruction. The more hardcore peeps like a hard debrief and let me tell you we debrief after every sortie and sometimes they get tough. But everybody responds positively to encouragement. That is the best way to help newbies like myself. If they screw up like I do tell them but don't belittle them.

In PR I look for my SL and stick to his side like glue unless he has no leadership skills or sends me on a objective. Im pretty good at managing a 4 ship in the flight sim world and let me tell you it is very difficult in modern flight sim to manage that many resources in a environment that things change in seconds do to the speeds at which thing happen and rapid closures rates.

Im looking forward to the day I can be SL because I know the value of good COMs and good SA. Squad leaders in PR need to improve there COMs so the newbies will have better SA.

01-03-2008, 12:07 PM	#84
T.Shepherd Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 30	I have been playing PR for a couple of weeks and finding it very interesting. I have been into flight sims for over 5 years now. My flight sim squad focuses on F15c with proper Air Force SOP and training, in fact one of our instructor pilots is a real ex-F15 instructor pilot and the training he conducts is very intense and challenging and modeled after the real thing. The point is that I have been in the command and training staff since the beginning and have dealt with allot of new pilots and the challenges of training people on such complex subjects as proper SOP, ATC, BFM, ACM, and BFM to mention a few. Every person responds differently to varies forms of instruction. The more hardcore peeps like a hard debrief and let me tell you we debrief after every sortie and sometimes they get tough. But everybody responds positively to encouragement. That is the best way to help newbies like myself. If they screw up like I do tell them but don't belittle them. In PR I look for my SL and stick to his side like glue unless he has no leadership skills or sends me on a objective. Im pretty good at managing a 4 ship in the flight sim world and let me tell you it is very difficult in modern flight sim to manage that many resources in a environment that things change in seconds do to the speeds at which thing happen and rapid closures rates. Im looking forward to the day I can be SL because I know the value of good COMs and good SA. Squad leaders in PR need to improve there COMs so the newbies will have better SA.
T.Shepherd Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 30

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01-02-2008, 09:06 PM	#81
para_hjs Join Date: Jan 2005 Sweden Location: Sweden , Eastcoast Posts: 214	Like ante mentioned; experienced SL´s (i.e PR veterans of the SL community) should adopt one or two PR-beginners in the squads. This will hopefully make the PR-community stronger in a way.

01-03-2008, 08:30 AM	#82
kilroy0097 PR Beta Testing Team Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bryan/College Station, TX Posts: 472	As a long standing Veteran of BF2, BF2142 and POE2 with a smattering of FH2 under my belt I can't really call myself a noob in the typical sense but in PR I am absolutely a noob. So I did what any responsible serious modern combat FPS gamer should do, I read the manual and the Wiki before even joining my first PR server. I fancy myself as being rather adept at picking up new FPS games rather quickly and so coming into PR for the first time I went about familiarizing myself with the various unique parts of PR. Yes it took me a little while to figure out exactly which kit is used for what. I didn't exactly know how all the functions played out. Didn't understand why as a squad member I couldn't manually spot a target. Various sorts of things that are ingrained into the heads of many of us. We literally have to untrain ourselves in order to train ourselves for PR. While I certainly wouldn't in my wildest dreams attempt to fly a jet in PR until I've practiced on an empty server, I did test drive a Blackhawk and a Tank and an APC learning the hard way that not having the right kit means death. Learning how to be an SL was also rather daunting but I did get it after a while. Most of all is the frustration in not having a squad that is a teamwork kind of squad filled with pubbers that get it even less. So not all noobs are simply idiots off the BF2 street expecting everything to be about the same. I knew it would be different coming in and I made certain to read up on it. I still had issues because honestly the learning curve in PR is huge. So please be patient to some of us who have started out new with PR 0.7. Some of us are indeed serious players and are trying our hardest to bring our skill into play in this new mod. I have all sorts of questions to ask simply because I don't know what's supposed to be and what is a bug or an error that needs to be sorted out. So if I ask a question that seems obvious to most veteran players, please humor me. Cheers.

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