Miniguns... more 'mini' than 'guns'

Apheirox · 07-01-2007, 03:50 AM

Are any changes planned for miniguns in final 0.6? They really need a hand!

Most players have given up on the miniguns and treat the Blackhawk as a pure transport vehicle. They mainly use the guns for annoying the pilot by firing for absolutely no reason. This is a pity - I doubt anybody is not dreaming about mowing down infantry with those mighty guns. I know how to lead targets, factoring in both ping, bullet speed and bullet drop so I am a great Blackhawk gunner. With a good pilot who keeps the chopper steady (rare) instead of going at maximum velocity while constantly changing directions, I can make the Blackhawk a somewhat effective weapon but nothing like what I think it should be. The miniguns need to be much more lethal, especially now that choppers are much more vulnerable to .50 cal and even small arms fire. A squad with no .50 support, no handheld AA and no AT caught in the open (think Jabal hills) should get totally creamed by a Blackhawk.

[DVB] TRIggS · 07-01-2007, 03:55 AM

Eventually I thought they would remove them and put in M240s.

Apheirox · 07-01-2007, 04:01 AM

Yeah, I suppose that would be the right thing to do... I do love miniguns though. I would not mind keeping them.

I suppose changing to M240's would actually boost their effectiveness, crazy as that may seem.

Expendable Grunt · 07-01-2007, 04:06 AM

I'm wondering why the bullets explode.

Apheirox · 07-01-2007, 04:11 AM

To simulate thousands of rounds per minute. Problem is there is not enough splash damage.

solodude23 · 07-01-2007, 04:22 AM

I don't know, with combination of moving at high speeds, the horrible netcode, hitboxes, etc. even though I like the M240 from a realism perspective it seems like you won't be able to kill a thing with it.

[R-DEV]Katarn · 07-01-2007, 04:34 AM

I've been constantly hearing that the miniguns are going to be replaced by the M240's....who told you guys that?

Zybon · 07-01-2007, 04:39 AM

Does anyone remember the OLD miniguns in vanilla BF2? How realistic were those? They basically annihilated everything in the area you pointed at.

[R-CON]Desertfox · 07-01-2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zybon

Does anyone remember the OLD miniguns in vanilla BF2? How realistic were those? They basically annihilated everything in the area you pointed at.

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*ahem* yeah those were anything but realistic :P And yeah with ^^ I got bored :P

kristofer · 07-01-2007, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Katarn

I've been constantly hearing that the miniguns are going to be replaced by the M240's....who told you guys that?

A few people were saying it in this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zybon

Does anyone remember the OLD miniguns in vanilla BF2? How realistic were those? They basically annihilated everything in the area you pointed at.

True, but I think that's what Strat is trying to get at - making it more powerful and therefore realistic.

07-01-2007, 03:50 AM	#1
Apheirox Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 254	Miniguns... more 'mini' than 'guns' Are any changes planned for miniguns in final 0.6? They really need a hand! Most players have given up on the miniguns and treat the Blackhawk as a pure transport vehicle. They mainly use the guns for annoying the pilot by firing for absolutely no reason. This is a pity - I doubt anybody is not dreaming about mowing down infantry with those mighty guns. I know how to lead targets, factoring in both ping, bullet speed and bullet drop so I am a great Blackhawk gunner. With a good pilot who keeps the chopper steady (rare) instead of going at maximum velocity while constantly changing directions, I can make the Blackhawk a somewhat effective weapon but nothing like what I think it should be. The miniguns need to be much more lethal, especially now that choppers are much more vulnerable to .50 cal and even small arms fire. A squad with no .50 support, no handheld AA and no AT caught in the open (think Jabal hills) should get totally creamed by a Blackhawk.

07-01-2007, 04:06 AM	#4
Expendable Grunt Join Date: Mar 2007 Mongolia Location: Hollywood, MD Posts: 3,655	I'm wondering why the bullets explode.
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Zybon Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 196	Does anyone remember the OLD miniguns in vanilla BF2? How realistic were those? They basically annihilated everything in the area you pointed at.
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07-01-2007, 03:55 AM	#2
[DVB] TRIggS Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 360	Eventually I thought they would remove them and put in M240s.

07-01-2007, 04:01 AM	#3
Apheirox Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 254	Yeah, I suppose that would be the right thing to do... I do love miniguns though. I would not mind keeping them. I suppose changing to M240's would actually boost their effectiveness, crazy as that may seem.

07-01-2007, 04:11 AM	#5
Apheirox Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 254	To simulate thousands of rounds per minute. Problem is there is not enough splash damage.

07-01-2007, 04:22 AM	#6
solodude23 Join Date: Dec 2004 United States of America Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 4,172	I don't know, with combination of moving at high speeds, the horrible netcode, hitboxes, etc. even though I like the M240 from a realism perspective it seems like you won't be able to kill a thing with it.

07-01-2007, 04:34 AM	#7
[R-DEV]Katarn PR Artwork Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,611	I've been constantly hearing that the miniguns are going to be replaced by the M240's....who told you guys that?

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