More recoil? - Page 4

Lothrian · 06-26-2007, 11:45 PM

To highlight how bad other weapons compare to the G3 ... argh, the last round turned me into a whining little kid. Everyone was being sniped by G3's, after about 30mins of being sniped, I finally killed someone with the M16 ... stole their G3 instantly, then racked up 6 kills instantly, with one mag. I hate that gun, it makes me feel like a cheap whore!

Xmaster · 06-26-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lothrian

[...]makes me feel like a cheap whore!

mmmMmMmMm cheap whore.

VipersGhost · 06-26-2007, 11:54 PM

I'd hate to see this become a big issue AFTER the final release. Now is the time to take a hard look at it. Would that kind of G3 ownage take place IRL? If not why then? Would more recoil even the odds and bring in more realistic values to the gun? I'm sure the dev's have heard this arguement before...it'd be nice to hear their perspective again now that actually testing of the mighty G3 has taken place. I personally think we need more recoil on the thing.

Lothrian · 06-27-2007, 12:24 AM

Its the new M4 ...

solodude23 · 06-27-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MichSt-Spartan

First recoil needs to be fixed so your goes actually drops a little after kicking up.

No. Thats your job.

[R-CON]Alex6714 · 06-27-2007, 06:27 AM

Exactly.

Anyway, the G3 uses a bigger bullet doesn´t it? 7.62xsomething which is much more powerful than th 5.56 that the M16 uses. I have watched a youtube video where they compare a M16 to an AK47 (not exactly the same I know) and while the M16 made a crack in a concrete block the AK almost destroyed it. The AK was a bit less accurate, and had a more recoil. I think its ok in game, I don´t know enough about the G3 to say otherwise. Sometime though, even if you are controlling the recoil, it doesn´t mean the bullets are going all in the same place.

DirtyHarry88 · 06-27-2007, 10:10 AM

The recoil is fine, on the scoped one I find it completely uncontrollable.

ReaperMAC · 06-27-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyHarry88

The recoil is fine, on the scoped one I find it completely uncontrollable.

Same. On full auto atleast.

Thunder · 06-27-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex6714

Exactly.

Anyway, the G3 uses a bigger bullet doesn´t it? 7.62xsomething which is much more powerful than th 5.56 that the M16 uses. I have watched a youtube video where they compare a M16 to an AK47 (not exactly the same I know) and while the M16 made a crack in a concrete block the AK almost destroyed it. The AK was a bit less accurate, and had a more recoil. I think its ok in game, I don´t know enough about the G3 to say otherwise. Sometime though, even if you are controlling the recoil, it doesn´t mean the bullets are going all in the same place.

they both use different rounds, the AK-47 uses the 7.62x39mm and the G3 uses 7.62×51 NATO the quality of the ammo varies aswell

VipersGhost · 06-27-2007, 12:52 PM

This could very well be, I've definitely noticed that you can't use the full-auto with a scope. I put together a very comprehensive report on the recoil values of the M16-AK-G3 in a post last night. I dug all over the net and did a bit of cross referencing to help with the accuracy of the info.
http://realitymod.com/forum/t23299-r...-included.html

So basically the M16 has very very little recoil, this .223 rnd is what you show your 10y old kid brother how to shoot on because the recoil wont scare him. The AK 7.62 is 75% more than that and the G3 is a 4times that of the M16. I was surpised to see how small the AK round was in comparision to the G3. The G3 fires a sniper rifle round basically, accounting for its lethality and accuracy. I think the G3 recoil should be pretty close to the M14 as their rounds are similar. The M14 doesn't have a pistol grip, but I think that is neglidgable in reducing recoil THAT much except when firing full-auto+no scope use.

06-26-2007, 11:45 PM	#31
Lothrian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 802	To highlight how bad other weapons compare to the G3 ... argh, the last round turned me into a whining little kid. Everyone was being sniped by G3's, after about 30mins of being sniped, I finally killed someone with the M16 ... stole their G3 instantly, then racked up 6 kills instantly, with one mag. I hate that gun, it makes me feel like a cheap whore!
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Lothrian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 802	Its the new M4 ...
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06-26-2007, 11:54 PM	#33
VipersGhost Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,125	I'd hate to see this become a big issue AFTER the final release. Now is the time to take a hard look at it. Would that kind of G3 ownage take place IRL? If not why then? Would more recoil even the odds and bring in more realistic values to the gun? I'm sure the dev's have heard this arguement before...it'd be nice to hear their perspective again now that actually testing of the mighty G3 has taken place. I personally think we need more recoil on the thing.

06-27-2007, 06:27 AM	#36
[R-CON]Alex6714 PR Contributor Join Date: Jun 2007 Spain Location: Spain Posts: 2,167	Exactly. Anyway, the G3 uses a bigger bullet doesn´t it? 7.62xsomething which is much more powerful than th 5.56 that the M16 uses. I have watched a youtube video where they compare a M16 to an AK47 (not exactly the same I know) and while the M16 made a crack in a concrete block the AK almost destroyed it. The AK was a bit less accurate, and had a more recoil. I think its ok in game, I don´t know enough about the G3 to say otherwise. Sometime though, even if you are controlling the recoil, it doesn´t mean the bullets are going all in the same place.

06-27-2007, 12:52 PM	#40
VipersGhost Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,125	This could very well be, I've definitely noticed that you can't use the full-auto with a scope. I put together a very comprehensive report on the recoil values of the M16-AK-G3 in a post last night. I dug all over the net and did a bit of cross referencing to help with the accuracy of the info. http://realitymod.com/forum/t23299-r...-included.html So basically the M16 has very very little recoil, this .223 rnd is what you show your 10y old kid brother how to shoot on because the recoil wont scare him. The AK 7.62 is 75% more than that and the G3 is a 4times that of the M16. I was surpised to see how small the AK round was in comparision to the G3. The G3 fires a sniper rifle round basically, accounting for its lethality and accuracy. I think the G3 recoil should be pretty close to the M14 as their rounds are similar. The M14 doesn't have a pistol grip, but I think that is neglidgable in reducing recoil THAT much except when firing full-auto+no scope use.

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