molotov cocktail

::Major_Baker:: · 04-25-2007, 03:32 PM

Does the damage need to be increased? I've had several thrown at me, but I think I have escaped them all relatively unharmed...

I don't recall ever actually confirming a kill using one of these either...

Do we need to make these more lethal?

[R-DEV]Katarn · 04-25-2007, 03:33 PM

You don't get a kill using these IIRC, they burn to death and counts as a terrain-based death (suicide i believe). While they might not seem very useful in open terrain, closed buildings and rooftops are especially useful in terms of not just damage but an intimidation factor. I recall in one of our fuck-around tests that duckhunt jumped off a building when we put 2 molotovs up there, to his death.

[R-MOD]Wasteland · 04-25-2007, 03:39 PM

They're also good for finishing off disabled tanks and APCs.

Leo · 04-25-2007, 03:39 PM

Oh, and they probably shouldn't be able to blow up APCs and Tanks either.

Maxfragg · 04-25-2007, 03:42 PM

why not ? a APC burning inside could explode more likely than one that "falls" into water, as they do in BF

vanity · 04-25-2007, 03:44 PM

I've never died from one and as the USMC, I have no fear of them. But as an insurgent, I think I'm a badass for throwing them and get excited whenever I lob one at a soldier.

It's weird.

Expendable Grunt · 04-25-2007, 03:49 PM

I storm/shoot through them normally.

daranz · 04-25-2007, 03:50 PM

I only found them good for denying an area to the enemy. For example, when there's a guy who keeps firing at me from behind a corner, I toss a molotov at the corner, and effectively make it impossible for him to shoot from his previous position. It isn't easy to kill people with the things, though, as they'd have to stand still and cooperate, waiting to get cooked.

eddie · 04-25-2007, 04:04 PM

Molotovs are great for ambushing convoys. Blow the lead vehicle up, and the rear vehicle. Then throw them at lightly armoured vehicles. The crew just shit themselves and run away, abandoning the vehicles. Then they meet a wall of death

::Major_Baker:: · 04-25-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daranz

I only found them good for denying an area to the enemy. For example, when there's a guy who keeps firing at me from behind a corner, I toss a molotov at the corner, and effectively make it impossible for him to shoot from his previous position. It isn't easy to kill people with the things, though, as they'd have to stand still and cooperate, waiting to get cooked.

yea i know what you mean. would be really cool if, upon direct (or near direct) impact, the guy actually caught on fire and/or 'bled' out fast. hard to code i'm sure.

I just think they are not very effective, if someone can charge forward through them without fear.

04-25-2007, 03:32 PM	#1
::Major_Baker:: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 408	molotov cocktail Does the damage need to be increased? I've had several thrown at me, but I think I have escaped them all relatively unharmed... I don't recall ever actually confirming a kill using one of these either... Do we need to make these more lethal?
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04-25-2007, 03:39 PM	#3
[R-MOD]Wasteland Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,666	They're also good for finishing off disabled tanks and APCs.
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04-25-2007, 03:39 PM	#4
Leo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,211	Oh, and they probably shouldn't be able to blow up APCs and Tanks either.
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04-25-2007, 03:49 PM	#7
Expendable Grunt Join Date: Mar 2007 Mongolia Location: Hollywood, MD Posts: 3,656	I storm/shoot through them normally.
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04-25-2007, 03:50 PM	#8
daranz Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,513	I only found them good for denying an area to the enemy. For example, when there's a guy who keeps firing at me from behind a corner, I toss a molotov at the corner, and effectively make it impossible for him to shoot from his previous position. It isn't easy to kill people with the things, though, as they'd have to stand still and cooperate, waiting to get cooked.
daranz Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,513

04-25-2007, 03:33 PM	#2
[R-DEV]Katarn PR Artwork Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,609	You don't get a kill using these IIRC, they burn to death and counts as a terrain-based death (suicide i believe). While they might not seem very useful in open terrain, closed buildings and rooftops are especially useful in terms of not just damage but an intimidation factor. I recall in one of our fuck-around tests that duckhunt jumped off a building when we put 2 molotovs up there, to his death.

04-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#5
Maxfragg Join Date: Jan 2007 Germany Location: Frankonia, Germany Posts: 1,423	why not ? a APC burning inside could explode more likely than one that "falls" into water, as they do in BF

04-25-2007, 03:44 PM	#6
vanity Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 564	I've never died from one and as the USMC, I have no fear of them. But as an insurgent, I think I'm a badass for throwing them and get excited whenever I lob one at a soldier. It's weird.

04-25-2007, 04:04 PM	#9
eddie The [R-MOD]s' Poodle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Worcester, England Posts: 4,312	Molotovs are great for ambushing convoys. Blow the lead vehicle up, and the rear vehicle. Then throw them at lightly armoured vehicles. The crew just shit themselves and run away, abandoning the vehicles. Then they meet a wall of death
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