weapon damage and concealment

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by Bob_Marley

^AKM. Note the very curved (ie, "banana") magazine



^ AK-74M. Note the much straighter magazine.

And now, for your information, clips are used to load magazines and magazines are used to load guns.

I have loaded and fired all of these weapons. Don't waste your textbook Rambo crap on me. The term "banana" comes from the fact that the "magazine" is curved like a banana. It’s a nick name given to the magazine because of it’s appearance. And you can use the term clip for magazine. The terms are interchangeable. If we are in a firefight, and I ask you for a clip, are you going to take to the time to nitpick with me over whether or not it's called a "clip" or "magazine"? As far as the "clip" is concerned, it's actually called a "stripper clip" which is used to hold the rounds together while they are being pressed into the magazine. Go join the Army or the Marine Corps, and you will actually get you hands on these weapons if you are lucky. Lucky enough to get into an MOS that requires you to become familiar with these weapons. That way you won't waste time repeating crap that you read about a weapon you have probably never seen or touched in real life.

Some one stated that they may be using the AK 101 in game, but the ballistics are not EXACTLY the same as the M16. But they are very, very close. I had forgotten about the AK 101 until now. I think it would make more since to use that one in game instead of the AK 74 or the AK 47.

[$kelet0r]

^ you're wrong on almost every point
no amount of personal attacks will change that
a clip and a magazine are not the same
an AK101 and an M16 will have identical bullet ballistics
all enlisted soldiers receive firearms training

[tHa_KhAn]

I think he's right about the banana clip referring to the curved magazine of the world's most wide spread assault rifle.

And every soldier I know nitpicks about the clip/magazine issue. Not that it would come up in a firefight, since they would all be soldiers and thus be requesting a magazine.

I have yet to shoot an M16/AR15, but very familiar with the AK-47 based weapons. Alot of fun. My uncle(a veteran) also noted the similarties between the modern manufactured AK type weapons and the older variants he encountered in his time in the military, while we were at the range a while back.

Not being a rifle historian I don't recall what rifle, but someone on a forum posted some pics of bullet clips being loaded into a bolt action rifle. The clips loaded directly into the rifle which did not have a removable magazine.

[[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude]

I want to see an M95 total a jeep in one shot to the bumper....Infact, i wanna see the M95! Its only on greasy! Now that aint Jazz.

...mongol...

[{XG} non_compliance]

Originally Posted by rico11b

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractor_2

Yes they do!!!! They all use the same REFRACTOR 2 ENGINE!!! Of course there are some changes and updates, but it's the same engine. I thought they were different engines also until i learned recently that they are using the same engine.

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefie...2_ships_062105


Read the first paragraph chief. Any retard can write in a wiki... Don't believe all you read on the internet. This link is to the official EA site.. "ALL NEW GAME ENGINE"... that's proof enough for me...


Besides, the rest of your statements, including "BF2 would be dead without it's mods" are just....well...retarded.

[rocket]

hmmmm this seems to be going off topic

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by $kelet0r

^ you're wrong on almost every point
no amount of personal attacks will change that
a clip and a magazine are not the same
an AK101 and an M16 will have identical bullet ballistics
all enlisted soldiers receive firearms training

You are an idiot! I'm not gonna get in a pissing contest with you about it. Yes the weapons in questions use IDENTICAL bullets, but the weapons themselves are different. An example would be that the rifles have different barrel lengths, and the m16's are made to tighter tolerances. I quess you played a little game, and now you know it all don't ya? You certainly don't seem to know anything about weapons so I will conceed to your greatness as well. I'm not gonna waste anyone time pissing on this. I suggest you don't either!

[Rico11b]

Originally Posted by {XG} non_compliance

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefie...2_ships_062105


Read the first paragraph chief. Any retard can write in a wiki... Don't believe all you read on the internet. This link is to the official EA site.. "ALL NEW GAME ENGINE"... that's proof enough for me...


Besides, the rest of your statements, including "BF2 would be dead without it's mods" are just....well...retarded.

Your'e an idiot as well as the other knucklehead! I can change one thing, just one thing on a game engine and call it an "ALL NEW GAME ENGINE", but that don't make it so. But I quess you all can play game read some crap on the web and assume that you are know it all, real life combat veterans. You make me laugh. Enough of this already. I conceed to your dumbness. I suppose EA said it's an ALL NEW GAME ENGINE then it must be so. Lol. Surely they would never lie. There are several sources that state the engines are the same Refractor 2 engine, I just gave one source. You believe whatever you want to scooter!!!

Whatever!

[tHa_KhAn]

Originally Posted by Mongolian_dude

I want to see an M95 total a jeep in one shot to the bumper....Infact, i wanna see the M95! Its only on greasy! Now that aint Jazz.

...mongol...

You can buy an M95 or the atleast a variant of one. Several manufacturers make .50 cal rifles now. My friend has one made by Armalite and it's the most impressive weapon I've held. Suprisingly heavy. THen you just have to buy a jeep.

[A.J.Sawyer]

Locked, this is what happens when topics go off topic.